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Hey, DEEP-DISH TRIVIA Fans… 1968's 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY set a new standard for special visual effects in science fiction films. The film won the Academy Award for visual effects that year. The Oscar went to Stanley Kubrick. I have read a number of articles about this over many years, and I'd like to learn the truth. What I read told me that Stanley Kubrick embarked upon filming 2001 without having a clue how the visual effects would be completed. He discovered a short film at the New York World's Fair. It was presented in the Bell Telephone exhibition. It was called "To The Moon And Beyond." It was made by an unknown talent named Douglas Trumbull. Kubrick hired Trumbull to produce the visual effects for 2001. However, Kubrick made sure that the final credits for his film read: SPECIAL PHOTOGRAPHIC EFFECTS DESIGNED AND DIRECTED BY STANLEY KUBRICK So, when the Oscar was awarded…it went to Stanley. I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE!
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yeah, it's true and a damned travesty.
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Apr 19, 2016 - 3:23 AM
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Rameau
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As I understand it, Douglas Trumbull only did the slit-scan effects near the end of the film (which looked amazing on the huge screen of the Casino Cinerama in London), so if there was only one Oscar going, I don't think he should have got to keep it. Kubrick gave himself the credit of special effects director, which I think would meant being a total pain in the arse & insisting that all the effects looked real, which they do (pre CGI), so I've no problem with Kubrick keeping the Oscar (I suppose his widow has it now). I used to have this magazine with an article by a guy called Wally Gentleman in it. He'd worked on a documentary called Universe, which Kubrick saw & was very impressed by the visuals. He hired Gentleman to do (some) of the special effects, but Gentleman had to leave the project early due to Ill health. I do know that Kubrick thought the "dupe" look gave away the special effects, so he wanted to do as much as he could in camera, & not duping down.
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RoryR brings in another film in question, Spartacus. I've only read little snippets over the years, but Kirk Douglas apparently claimed that Kubrick hogged a great deal of credit for that film which he did not deserve. It this true?
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So, Grecchus, please, what's this "lovely anecdote" you allude to and allude to and allude to but never simply tell?
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Apr 20, 2016 - 11:39 AM
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Ado
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Has Doug Trumbull had anything to say about this? I don't recall reading anything negative from him. Yes, he did http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/douglas-trumbull-kubrick-didnt-earn-729702 Well, he doesn't seem to have a problem with it other than he feels it a shame Kubrick didn't get an Oscar for directing and writing. Everyone knows who really did the SFX anyway, and I personally don't give a crap about Oscars. How about everyone else? No, I really do not care about the Oscars, less than ever in fact. But Trumbull did say; "Kubrick did not create the visual effects. He directed them," says Trumbull So Trumbull is a brilliant guy, and a gentleman, and he thinks very highly of Kubrick, as do I, but I think Trumbull feels like he, and probably some of those other guys, should have gotten an Oscar for creating effects. And I think he is right.
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