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It has been said here that the only thing that Douglas Trumbull accomplished in 2001: A Space Odyssey were the slit-scan sequences near the end of the film.
I had never heard that before, and I highly doubt that it is the truth.
Take a look at Silent Running (1972)
Universal Pictures handed Trumbull a mere one million dollars to make the film. He took that million bucks and made a film that looks like he spent over ten times that amount back in the early 70's.
The spaceships, the robots, the fabulous visual effects (reminiscent of 2001!), ALL certified him as the genius behind the visuals for 2001.
Next up: Close Encounters Of The Third Kind. Blade Runner.
The state rests.
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I'd say 2001 got the reputation for being the cat's hips because, well, because it was the cat's hips. I certainly share your appreciation for FORBIDDEN PLANET -- and not just the effects -- but there's no gainsaying the fact that in its own era 2001 moved and impressed contemporary audiences with its visuals, and set a new standard, to say nothing of ushering in a new wave of s-f film-making. Whatever a film's faults or virtues, a landmark is a landmark.
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Apr 21, 2016 - 7:57 AM
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Ado
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I would say that the model and space effects in 2001 remain largely unrivaled to this day.
That is because it was all in-camera, nothing duped, and the models were perfection. The results were completely convincing. The space station, stunning, the moon-base, stunning.
I admire Forbidden Planet as a piece of movie making with a great vision, but the effects were very obviously paintings, and not really that convincing. Comparing 2001 effects to Forbidden Planet - umm, not really an apples and apples thing.
And I am with Christopher, Trumbull proved himself brilliant time and time again, I would still say that his version of the USS Enterprise in TMP remains (36 years later) the most persuasive one, convincingly massive and textured and with complex lighting (with lots of dental mirrors no less).
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Apr 21, 2016 - 8:37 AM
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Solium
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I would say that the model and space effects in 2001 remain largely unrivaled to this day.
That is because it was all in-camera, nothing duped, and the models were perfection. The results were completely convincing. The space station, stunning, the moon-base, stunning.
I admire Forbidden Planet as a piece of movie making with a great vision, but the effects were very obviously paintings, and not really that convincing. Comparing 2001 effects to Forbidden Planet - umm, not really an apples and apples thing.
And I am with Christopher, Trumbull proved himself brilliant time and time again, I would still say that his version of the USS Enterprise in TMP remains (36 years later) the most persuasive one, convincingly massive and textured and with complex lighting (with lots of dental mirrors no less).
No questions in camera when done right makes all the difference in the world. Especially with the technology of that time. A copy, of a copy, of a copy is going to deteriorate by necessity.
Even on a smaller scale, the effects in Irwin Allen productions look so much better than the optical mess in Star Trek TOS.
Of course Trumbull was a master of both in camera and optical work.
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