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 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 3:13 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

A few years ago, I did a small "series" of threads about the completely unreleased music by my favourite composers:

John Williams - http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=88091&forumID=1&archive=0
Danny Elfman - http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=88081&forumID=1&archive=0
Elliot Goldenthal - http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=88100&forumID=1&archive=0

For this belated 4th edition, I'd like to focus on James Horner.

We still have one new Horner to look forward to, sort of (THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN remake), and for my own part -- although I own some 45++ albums of the man -- I'm missing a great many regular soundtracks from his past.

But I was wondering, what completely unreleased Horner material is still around (not counting bootlegs)? To my knowledge, this is the list (using IMDB and soundtrackcollector as sources -- feel free to add or correct):

FILMS:

THE WATCHER (1978)
THE DROUGHT (1978)
FANTASY (1978)
GIST AND EVANS (1978)
JUST FOR LAUGH (1978)
LANDSCAPE (1978)
THE LADY IN RED (1979)
UP FROM THE DEPTHS (1979)
DEADLY BLESSING (1981)
THE HAND (1981)
THE DRESSER (1983)
THE STONE BOY (1984)
STREETS OF FIRE (1984, rejected)
IN HER OWN TIME (1985, documentary)
VOLUNTEERS (1985)
HEAVEN HELP US (1985, also includes rejected versions)
CAPTAIN EO (1986, short)
OFF BEAT (1986)
P.K. AND THE KID (1987)
YOUNG GUNS (1988, rejected)
TUMMY TROUBLE (1989, short)
I LOVE YOU TO DEATH (1990)
NORMAN AND THE KILLER (1991, short)
ROMEO & JULIET (2013, rejected)
FIRST IN FLIGHT (2012, short)
ONE DAY IN AUSCHWITZ (2015, documentary)
LIVING IN THE AGE OF AIRPLANES (2015, documentary)

TV:

ANGEL DUSTED (1981)
A FEW DAYS AT WEASEL CREEK (1981)
A PIANO FOR MRS. CIMINO (1982)
FAERIE TALE THEATRE (1982-1987)
BETWEEN FRIENDS (1983)
SURVIVING (1985)
FISH POLICE (1992)

LOGO MUSIC:

UNIVERSAL PICTURES (1990-1997)
ICON PRODUCTIONS (1993)
THX "CIMMARON" DVD (2000)
CBS EVENING NEWS WITH KATIE COURIC (2006-)
IMAGINE ENTERTAINMEN (2009?)
CBS FILMS (2010)

CONCERT WORKS:

CONVERSATIONS (1976)
SPECTRAL SHIMMERS (1978)
A FOREST PASSAGE (2000)
COLLAGE aka FOUR HORNS CONCERTO (2015)

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 3:33 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

My Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys isn't completely unreleased.
There are two tracks (totalling 8 minutes) of score by Horner on the CD.
Likewise, Pursuit Of DB Cooper has about 6 minutes of score, but that has only been released on LP thus far (legit anyway).

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 3:35 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Also, if you include Young Guns (which was a rejected score but does have the main theme available on a Tony Hinnigan CD collection) you need to add Romeo & Juliet too.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 3:36 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Excellent, I'll revise accordingly.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 4:41 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

There's more...

Horner scored THE PIED PIPER OF HAMELIN episode (directed by Nicholas Meyer) of Shelley Duvall's 'FAERIE TALE THEATRE' TV series

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 5:02 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Added.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 6:38 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

He also did two scores (in different styles from the one that was used) that were not used for "Heaven Help Us".

Also, most of his rejected "Streets of Fire" has not been release. I know it's a technicallity. It's probably also -- what's been released -- heavily edited. That's a number of tossed scores for somebody who proclaimed in an interview he'd never had any rejected.


Information online shows that "Soul Calibur" was a film version of the video game series, in 2002. Director: Sammo Hung Kam-Bo. I don't know if it never got filmed, maybe got shelved, or what not.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 6:43 AM   
 By:   BlindDoc   (Member)



Also, most of his rejected "Streets of Fire" has not been release. I know it's a technicallity. It's probably also -- what's been released -- heavily edited. That's a number of tossed scores for somebody who proclaimed in an interview he'd never had any rejected.




Yes, that would be my #1. According to steel drum player Andy Narell this was recorded in its entirety in '84. Seeminly so much in "Commando" mode that when the musicians recorded the latter one year later, they had a huge sense of déja-vu!

Best,
Burnie

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 6:46 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Added HEAVEN HELP US and STREETS OF FIRE, and removed SOUL CALIBUR.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 7:19 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I must say I was surprised to see how much unreleased stuff there was.

I think of all the above, the ones I wish for the most are SPECTRAL SHIMMERS (curious if it's a wildly avantgarde piece or if it has some traces of his later self) and the rejected material from ROMEO & JULIET and YOUNG GUNS. I really don't know anything about most of the other ones, so I have no idea what to wish for. Let's hope ALL of this will get released, and that we have lots of "new" Horner to look forward to now that there will be no more music from the man himself.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I think you might like BETWEEN FRIENDS (1983), but it's a short score. I mentioend that about a month ago here. I don't recall the exact amount, but it's something like 12 to 18 minutes in the film (unless there's stuff dropped).

As I recall, Horner was holding up a YG release. It was one of two scores he apparently didn't want out.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   jacky   (Member)

Does Captain EO count here aswell?

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 7:41 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

He has it under Films.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Well... Heaven Help Us some initial ideas might be rejected, but his name is still on the movie so the "rejected" note is hardly correct.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

He did almost two full scores that were seperate attempts in different styles, that were not accepted. We're not talking cues not used from the final score.

But that does point out what I didn't notice before, so Thor should mkake a correction: the final score didn't get officially released, so perhaps it should read "(used and rejected scores)"

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

OK, corrected. Added "also includes rejected scores".

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 11:47 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

ONE DAY IN AUSCHWITZ (2015, documentary)

Boring, slow with nothing of note, and electronics. Thor, you'll love it.



EDIT:
"Raptor"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-nUf3t2AEQ

How'd this slip by? It says "Music by James Horner". I double checked the end credits to make sure it wasn't misleading and that used music might be credited there, but nothing is credited.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 12:30 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

EDIT:
"Raptor"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-nUf3t2AEQ

How'd this slip by? It says "Music by James Horner". I double checked the end credits to make sure it wasn't misleading and that used music might be credited there, but nothing is credited.


It sounds like Horner to me, and as you say, he's credited in the main titles, but I have no idea if it's original score or not. Since it's produced by Roger Corman, it could be 'stock music' that Horner wrote for him at some point.

James Horner fans, chime in! And isn't the director, Jim Wynorski, a member of this board?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   AndyDursin   (Member)

Most definitely stock music.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2016 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Are you sure? If so, I'll remove it.

But it opens up a whole other can of worms -- did Horner write 'stock music' that did not appear in any particular film? Like back in the Corman days? If so, that's a whole library of unreleased music that could be added to the list.

 
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