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 Posted:   Apr 24, 2016 - 3:52 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

We take them for granted now. But what was the first movie that left the door open for a sequel? For example the first one I recall was Star Wars where Lucas intentionally put in a shot of Darth Vader escaping.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2016 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

THE BIRTH OF A NATION

It left the door open for THE FURTHER EXPLOITS OF THE KKK

(You didn't say it had to be a movie that actually got a sequel)

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2016 - 4:01 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

All the way back to 1915? Wow.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2016 - 4:08 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

I thought you were ignoring me.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2016 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Pota.

Not the first at all, but it screamed what happened next to chuck.
Most films finished with everything tied in neat bunches.
A trend for open ended films that made you think kinder became more common in 60s and were de rigeur by the 70s.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2016 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I thought you were ignoring me.

I missed you.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2016 - 4:32 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Pota.

Not the first at all, but it screamed what happened next to chuck.


Exactly. Amazing ending, but it wasn't really an intentional opening for another film.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2016 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I don't have the answer, but let me say: if we dismiss the racist film, "Doc Savage: The Man of Bronze" announced a sequel at the end of the film. Some reports say some of it was filmed, others seem to indicate that wasn't so. The script was written and re-written, and Robert O. Ragland did some demos.


I'm still waiting for "Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money".

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2016 - 4:54 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

Pota.

Not the first at all, but it screamed what happened next to chuck.


Exactly. Amazing ending, but it wasn't really an intentional opening for another film.


Back in those days, there really wasn't any consideration of "franchise" films. Hence, the ending of the original PotA was just open ended and not designed to lead into a sequel. Proof of the pudding on that is, in Beneath, the blew the whole Apes planet to smithereens so at that time clearlly didn't consider the possibility of a third movie (despite all the many shortcomings and continuity errors in Escape from the Palnet of The Apes, you have to hand it to writer Paul Dehn for pulling that one out of the hat, after the planet and all the characters were apparently blown to oblivion in Beneath).

Applying the current studio thinking to movies, where every film is guaranteed a sequel if the first one does good box office, you can easily see how Gone with the Wind would have spawned a sequel back in the day (Gone with the Wind II: Tomorrow is another day). I liked it in the old days, when they only thought about follow ups after the first movie was a hit. Nowadays, you can imagine that, if a major studio made a film version of of, say, MacBeth, they would automatically sign up the talent to at least two sequels (Banquoy's Revenge and Fall of the Thane of Cawdor).

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2016 - 4:54 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I don't have the answer, but let me say: if we dismiss the racist film, "Doc Savage: The Man of Bronze" announced a sequel at the end of the film. Some reports say some of it was filmed, others seem to indicate that wasn't so. The script was written and re-written, and Robert O. Ragland did some demos.


I'm still waiting for "Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money".


That's another good topic. List of films that "promised" a sequel, but never came.
History of the World PT2? Or was that a running gag for Mel?

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2016 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

So i cant have pota? Even though it was open ended, begged for a sequel and got 4 of them? Tough crowd on this thread.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2016 - 5:05 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I don't have the answer, but let me say: if we dismiss the racist film, "Doc Savage: The Man of Bronze" announced a sequel at the end of the film. Some reports say some of it was filmed, others seem to indicate that wasn't so. The script was written and re-written, and Robert O. Ragland did some demos.


I'm still waiting for "Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money".


That's another good topic. List of films that "promised" a sequel, but never came.

History of the World PT2? Or was that a running gag for Mel?


As someone who loved George Pal's Doc Savage film, that tag for Arch Enemy of Evil was just hugely exciting. In an age before internet trailers and information, I honestly thought there was going to be a follow up and I was hugely excited by the prospect of it.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2016 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

So i cant have pota? Even though it was open ended, begged for a sequel and got 4 of them? Tough crowd on this thread.

Actually I thought of it more as a proper conclusion of the story. Mystery solved. No reason they couldn't do more films of course.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2016 - 5:53 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

So i cant have pota? Even though it was open ended, begged for a sequel and got 4 of them? Tough crowd on this thread.

Actually I thought of it more as a proper conclusion of the story. Mystery solved. No reason they couldn't do more films of course.


I for one wish the '68 original never got a sequel. I was disappointed with BENEATH and BATTLE, and ESCAPE and CONQUEST were good back in the day, when i was only twelve and thirteen, but they haven't aged well with me at all.

Now, the new APES movies are interesting because they're trying to be prequels to the original, with a more intelligent scenario as to how it all began than what the '70s sequels proposed. I actually don't think about the old APES sequels any more, and would think of them less if only Fox would stop selling the original as the "first chapter in the APES saga," which it really isn't.

Charlton Heston didn't think the original needed a sequel, and I agree with him.

The problem with franchise, or series, films today is they don't come to satisfactory conclusions. They play merely as prelude to the next one to come -- if the boxoffice is good, that is. This is true of the new APES movies, but also the Bonds and everything else.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2016 - 6:06 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

It's cynical baiting. Remember Karate Kid 1 and 2? Both films were justifiable in their own rights, and stood alone. Sure the sequel literately picked up 20 minutes after the first film. That non-withstanding, their two self contained films.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2016 - 6:09 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)


As someone who loved George Pal's Doc Savage film, that tag for Arch Enemy of Evil was just hugely exciting. In an age before internet trailers and information, I honestly thought there was going to be a follow up and I was hugely excited by the prospect of it.


"When the green wigglies are are coming to get you."

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2016 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I don't have the answer, but let me say: ... "Doc Savage: The Man of Bronze" announced a sequel at the end of the film.


If an announcement counts, how about "James Bond will return in GOLDFINGER."

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2016 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I don't have the answer, but let me say: ... "Doc Savage: The Man of Bronze" announced a sequel at the end of the film.


If an announcement counts, how about "James Bond will return in GOLDFINGER."


Or indeed at the end of The Spy Who Loved Me:

"James Bond will return in "FOR YOUR EYES ONLY"

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2016 - 6:22 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

We take them for granted now. But what was the first movie that left the door open for a sequel?

Hmm. I wonder if FOUR DAUGHTERS (1938) did this. It spawned at least 3 sequels.

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2016 - 9:12 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

How about FRANKENSTEIN (1931)?

We didn't actually see the Monster burning up, did we?

 
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