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 Posted:   Jan 6, 2003 - 1:51 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

I recently watched my laser of Sam Goldwyn's THE HURRICANE (1937) which starred Dorothy Lamour and Jon Hall and featured a beautiful Alfred Newman score. The Pioneer laser featured an isolated score and effects track, so I watched the movie through twice, once with complete sound and again with only the score and SE track. The sound effects do not interfer with the music too much and the sound level is consistent through out. Has this score ever been re-recorded? Do the original masters still exisit? It would make a wonderful release, I am surprised this music has been ignored so long. Apparently Newman reused some earlier themes from MR ROBINSON CRUSOE. Nevertheless, it desevses some kind of release.

Interestly, the M&E tracks do not feature all the sound effects included on the final mixed track. Also I was surprised that the choral sequences were not on the M&E tracks. In addition, several sections which featured just dialog and effects, but no music were blank on the isolated track. Did the laser producers purposely edited out these portions from the isolated track? I found the whole expiernce quite interesting. BTW the HURRICANE sound crew won an Academy Award that year. The special effects also hold up extremely well.

Also James Hall, who co-wrote MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY, authored THE HURRICANE. Sadly his son, Cinematographer Conrad Hall, recently passed away.

NP The Bishop's Wife

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2003 - 6:51 PM   
 By:   Pavelek   (Member)

Newman's score for THE HURRICANE is a true classic of the cinema. I saw the projected film twenty or so years ago on a double bill at the Pacific Film Archives in Berkeley along with THE RAZOR'S EDGE. A tape of the score (somewhat truncated) has floated around for years and its quality, as always, depends on how close it comes to the original source.

In 1998 Fred Steiner showed film clips from films of the 30s scored by Newman and performed music samples on piano at the Film Music Symposium held in Culver City. I was among those fortunate enough to attend. Some of the films discussed were THE DARK ANGEL, BELOVED ENEMY, ROMAN SCANDALS. The main title of MR. ROBINSON CRUSOE ('32) was shown and this was the first time I became aware that "The Moon of Manakoora" theme from THE HURRICANE ('38) had been used in an earlier film.

I would have enjoyed an entire afternoon of Mr. Steiner discussing and performing Newman's music but sadly, each program during the 2-day seminar was only alloted so much time and the presentation stopped at a certain because of the time restrictions.

Before he scored the famous Selznick and Fox signature themes, Newman wrote a "swirling strings" intro for Goldwyn films that is quite distinctive. This music appears only on those films scored by Newman for Sam and I always thought it segued best in his hair-raising prelude for THE HURRICANE. When the wordless female chorus chimes in, its both beautiful and frightening and forms a clarion call for the all-powerful natural catastrophe to come. Newman's intro music for Goldwyn has never appeared on CD (to my knowledge) but I believe that a legitimate release of the score is inevitable.

Turner Classic movies is showing both WUTHERING HEIGHTS and THESE THREE this weekend. Let's hope this is just the beginning of more programming from the superb Goldwyn film catalog.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2003 - 7:37 PM   
 By:   Originalthinkr@aol.com   (Member)

"...cinematographer Conrad Hall, recently pasted away..."

That'd explain his pasty complexion before he died.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2003 - 10:11 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

Thse Three has a love theme that was later used as the love theme in Newmans Razors edge

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2003 - 5:40 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Couldn't agree with you more about Newman and THE HURRICANE. Magnificent score! Best during the first half hour or so, with all those sweeping South Seas vistas. Oddly, there's no music during the actual catastrophe, but a load of it afterwards, and the finale is wonderful. Consider what the likes of this picture would have been, if filmed in 3-strip Technicolor!

Other isolated Newman scores on LD that may interest you include: STELLA DALLAS, THE REAL GLORY, THE COWBOY AND THE LADY, DODSWORTH, WUTHERING HEIGHTS, and THE COUNTERFEIT TRAITOR. If you can find them. WUTHERING and TRAITOR are masterpieces. DODSWORTH and STELLA are very good, especially their finales. GLORY is very orchestral, but somehow seems lumbering. COWBOY is negligible.

Of all of these, only 2 have appeared on b**ts, as far as I know. But they are all certainly worth releasing.

Because it is essentially a silent film, with sound added later, MR.ROBINSON CRUSOE is all music and effects track, with no dialogue, as I recall. It's worth having as archival material, but the sound is definitely from the 20's.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2003 - 6:24 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)


Other isolated Newman scores on LD that may interest you include: STELLA DALLAS, THE REAL GLORY, THE COWBOY AND THE LADY, DODSWORTH, WUTHERING HEIGHTS, and THE COUNTERFEIT TRAITOR. If you can find them. WUTHERING and TRAITOR are masterpieces. DODSWORTH and STELLA are very good, especially their finales. GLORY is very orchestral, but somehow seems lumbering. COWBOY is negligible.




I have STELLA, WUTHERING and COUNTERFEIT in my laser collection. Believe it or not I never listened to isolated tracks on each (guess I never had time)! But I will be sure to do so. I am between jobs now, so I have more time on my hands. I did not realize the other titles featured isolated tracks.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2003 - 6:40 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

....If you like "The Hurricane", you may want to search out two LPs from the 1950s which Newman did in collaboration with Ken Darby, "The Magic Islands" on Decca, and "Ports of Paradise" on Capitol. Both were originally in spectacular stereo and featured huge 20th Century-Fox-like orchestral sections along with vocals by a Darby-led chorus and (oft-time dubbing) singers like Bill Lee and Norma Zimmer. The concept was a cruise to the various islands of the Pacific and featured songs as well as snippets of music from such Newman-scored films as "The Hurricane", "Trade Winds", and "Son of Fury", among others. They are spectacular and sound like an old 50s stereo movie score.

In these days of "lounge" records from the 50s and 60s, I'm surprised no enterprising producer has yet discovered these. Lots of people in the 50s shared "very" romantic nights listening to them!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2003 - 10:32 PM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

Many of the music tracks on the Goldwyn titles are not the soundtracks at all. Goldwyn discoverd in the early 70s they had no music and effects tracks for foreign dubbing of their titles for video. They decided to have the scores recorded anew with a small Japanes orchestra and new effects were added. Some, like Wuthering Heights and Stella Dallas are the actual tracks - most are rerecorded.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2003 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   Originalthinkr@aol.com   (Member)

Weird. How about THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES and THE WESTERNER (credited to Tiomkin, but supposedy almost entirely re-written by Newman)?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2003 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Thank you, Joe Caps. I'd thought the HURRICANE tracks sounded different from the actual film. I'm still glad they're isolated, though.

I'd forgotten about THE WESTERNER.

 
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