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 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 5:15 AM   
 By:   PollyAnna   (Member)

Recently I was listening to a 1968 Italian western soundtrack called "Joe… Cercati Un Posto per morire" (Find a place to die) by Gianni Ferrio and realised that he had reused his "Vivo o Morto" theme from an earlier 1966 film “Wanted”. Although slower in tempo it was exactly the same theme. It got me to wondering if any other composer has reused music from one of their earlier works in a totally different film. Franchises and character themes aside can anybody think of any other instances of this?

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 5:19 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Jerry Goldsmith PSYCHO II _ LEGEND

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 5:30 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

The PSYCHO II>LEGEND piece was left in by Ridley Scott and Terry Rawlings from the temp track.
Goldsmith no doubt rolled his eyes (again) at their meddling.

Ennio Morricone, Bernard Herrmann, Jerry Fielding and James Horner are just a number of film composers who have re-used whole themes and motifs, from film to film, throughout their careers.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 5:43 AM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

Bill Conti
MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE ---> BUSHWHACKED

John Carpenter
CHRISTINE ---> PRINCE OF DARKNESS

Bernard Herrmann
FAHRENHEIT 451, TORN CURTAIN and ON DANGEROUS GROUND ---> THE BATTLE OF NERETVA

Elliot Goldenthal
DEMOLITION MAN ---> BATMAN AND ROBIN

Miles Goodman
REAL MEN ---> PROBLEM CHILD

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 5:46 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

The PSYCHO II>LEGEND piece was left in by Ridley Scott and Terry Rawlings from the temp track.
Goldsmith no doubt rolled his eyes (again) at their meddling.

Ennio Morricone, Bernard Herrmann, Jerry Fielding and James Horner are just a number of film composers who have re-used whole themes and motifs, from film to film, throughout their careers.


Indeed.

Goldsmith had used what would become the Russia House-the before in unused scores for Alien Nation and Gladiator.

And I recall music from some obscure science fiction flick ending up being re-composed for The Truman Show.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)


Elliot Goldenthal
DEMOLITION MAN ---> BATMAN AND ROBIN


Elliot Goldenthal
DEMOLITION MAN ---> MOST GOLDENTHAL SCORES

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 7:13 AM   
 By:   fleming   (Member)

Main theme from ZULU re-used in CRY THE BELOVED COUNTRY (John Barry)

Main theme from THE BAD AND THE BEAUTIFUL re-used in TWO WEEKS IN ANOTHER TOWN (David Raksin)

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 7:14 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)


Elliot Goldenthal
DEMOLITION MAN ---> BATMAN AND ROBIN


Elliot Goldenthal
DEMOLITION MAN ---> MOST GOLDENTHAL SCORES


"The Beast Within" from Alien 3 re-used in Cobb (although at least it was credited). An Alien 3 track was also used in Titus, I believe.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

I read this topic as *themes* being re-used, in new compositions.

Scott Bettencourt compiled a list of complete cues being re-used a few years back.
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/daily/article.cfm/articleID/5289/NEW-IMPROVED-TEMP-TRACK-LIST/

Chi Mai, however, might be the emperor of re-used score tracks.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

It's not always easy to tell. Miklos Rozsa did it from time to time, but a lot less than other Golden Age composers. His main 'El Cid' hero theme is a Hispanicised rework of the 'Lancelot' theme in 'Knights of the Round Table' but it takes some looking to notice.

I hate to say it, but many 'drone/wail/ostinato' mainstream scores today are so indistinct from one another that you couldn't make a plagiarism suit stick or fall even from one composer to another!


 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

Broughton RESCUERS DOWN UNDER --> LOST IN SPACE.

Which I never realized until I bought and listened to the newest fully expanded releases (that were released on the very same day).

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Lee Holdridge was asked to reprise his theme from Wizards and Warriors for the National Geographic Presents Explorers: A Century of Discovery. That's a bit literal though.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Alfred Newman

A famous example for the re-use of a composition:
The "Hallelujah" from The Hunchback of Notre Dame --> The Song of Bernadette --> The Robe

Also re-used in The Robe in the cue "Demetrius' Rescue" was the heroic theme from the cue "Thank you Mother of God" in Hunchback of Notre Dame. It's also found in Prince of Foxes.

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   Goldentones   (Member)

James Horner, as excellent as his scores were, is definitely the most notorious for this.

Star Trek II's staccato violin melody (heard throughout, they start the end titles) is from Horner's TV movie Rascals and Robbers from earlier in 1982. The crescendo at the end of ST2 was later featured in The Rocketeer, Titanic, Avatar, The Amazing Spiderman and the finale to his concert piece Pas de Deux (possibly in others too).

The action music from Aliens (Futile Escape) is from Star Trek II also.

Windsong from Mighty Joe Young is in part from Jumanji (listen to the track Alan Parrish).

One of the themes from Glory (Lonely Christmas) was reused as the main theme to The Pagemaster.

An American Tail and The Land Before Time both end their first tracks with the same gentle chord progression, which was also used in Honey I Shrunk the Kids, *batteries not included and The Pagemaster.

The track "The Dance" from the Four Feathers was reused as a main melody in For Greater Glory.

Sneakers, Bicentennial Man and A Beautiful Mind all have melodies based on the same chord progressions.


etc, etc.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 1:58 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

It took 14 posts to bring up James Horner? Must be a slow day on the boards. wink

Jerry Goldsmith- Logan's Run/Secret of NIMH

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)



John Carpenter
CHRISTINE ---> PRINCE OF DARKNESS


That's news to me. Would you like to elaborate on this? I think you are mistaken.

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Hey sol, I mentioned Jimbo right near the top.

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)


Elliot Goldenthal
DEMOLITION MAN ---> BATMAN AND ROBIN


Elliot Goldenthal
DEMOLITION MAN ---> MOST GOLDENTHAL SCORES


"The Beast Within" from Alien 3 re-used in Cobb (although at least it was credited). An Alien 3 track was also used in Titus, I believe.


Also, Goldenthal's "angry rock" music in Alien 3's "Wreckage and Rape" reappears for the biker gang in "Batman & Robin."

And there are several instances of music reuse in the James Bond series: Monty Norman's "Dr. No" score appearing in "From Russia With Love," an earlier version of the James Bond theme appearing in "You Only Live Twice," David Arnold's "The Name's Bond...James Bond" appearing in "Skyfall," but I don't know of any cases that specifically reflect the composer's wishes to reuse their own music in another film. Newman lifted pretty heavily from parts of "Skyfall" in writing "Spectre," but as far as I'm aware those parts were rerecorded and featured some variations.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Goldsmith's soft piano love(?) theme from the rejected score to "Gladiator" (1992 boxing movie), found it's way as a theme in multiple cues in the 1993 film "The Vanishing". He did something similar with another theme from a rejected score, which found it's way into another rejected score before it found it's way into a film score that was used.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 6:52 PM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

Nino Rota recycling his theme from Fortunella in The Godfather.

Elmer Bernstein carrying over his theme from Saturn 3 as Taarna's theme in Heavy Metal.

 
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