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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1      General Discussion: Did Honneger Have a Train Layout?   Last Post   Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 1:44 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) And if so, what scale? From Wikipedia: Honegger was widely known as a train enthusiast, and once notably said: "I have always loved locomotives passionately. For me they are living creatures and I love them as others love women or horses." His "mouvement symphonique" Pacific 231 (a depiction of a steam locomotive) gained him early notoriety in 1923.    Posted:   May 28, 2016 - 8:16 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) No one knows? Did any other film composers have train layouts?    Posted:   May 29, 2016 - 2:34 PM     By:   Graham Watt   (Member) Honegger didn't have a train layout. From this "Classical Granny" newsletter (December 1934), Honegger claims, "I'd love to own a train set, but they haven't been invented yet, at least not the way I want them to be, with really great farmyards." And no, no other film composer owns or has owned one. Peter Purves out of "Blue Peter" had one, but his film music credits only stretch to doing the whistling in the "Polo Mint" TV adverts (1976-79).    Posted:   May 29, 2016 - 3:25 PM     By:   MusicMad   (Member) Like Graham ... I haven't a clue ... ... but I do have three recorded versions of Pacific 231 (Mouvement symphonique No.1) (tone poem). It's not a piece I'm particularly fond of ... starts well but becomes something of a train-wreck towards the end! It is effective in painting a picture and I must give it/them another play. Many thanks for bringing the piece (back) to my attention. NP: Pacific 231 Ernest Anserment / Orchestre de la Suisse Romande (1963) Mitch Edit: I enjoyed that performance, far more than any earlier play ... so thank you, again, for raising a thread about this piece (even if the question posed is beyond my knowledge).    Posted:   May 29, 2016 - 3:33 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) Honegger didn't have a train layout. From this "Classical Granny" newsletter (December 1934), Honegger claims, "I'd love to own a train set, but they haven't been invented yet... Lionel trains existed WAY before 1934, and HO scale was around as early as the 1940s.    Posted:   May 29, 2016 - 3:57 PM     By:   Graham Watt   (Member) Honegger didn't have a train layout. From this "Classical Granny" newsletter (December 1934), Honegger claims, "I'd love to own a train set, but they haven't been invented yet... Lionel trains existed WAY before 1934, and HO scale was around as early as the 1940s. "...AT LEAST NOT THE WAY I WANT THEM TO BE, WITH REALLY GREAT FARMYARDS." You missed that important point Onya. Model trains themselves have been around since Stevenson's "Rocket", designed for the "Apollo" NASA space train missions in the 17th century, but NOT THE WAY HONEGGER WANTED, WITH FARMS.    Posted:   May 30, 2016 - 8:21 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) "...AT LEAST NOT THE WAY I WANT THEM TO BE, WITH REALLY GREAT FARMYARDS." You missed that important point Onya. I'd already had a few cocktails by the time I'd read this.    Posted:   May 30, 2016 - 8:30 AM     By:   Last Child   (Member) I think Freud would have a few observations about Ony's toy train obsession here...    Posted:   May 30, 2016 - 8:57 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) I think Freud would have a few observations about Ony's toy train obsession here... Toys and models are different, and I could care less what an uptight old man thinks of my obsessions.    Posted:   May 30, 2016 - 9:29 AM     By:   Graham Watt   (Member) Here's something useful for once - Dirk Wickenden pointed me in the direction of an interview published in "Soundtrack" (Vol 20/ No 78/ Summer 2001). The article was about the great Nathan Van Cleave, but many of the stories came from the interview which Dirk had done with Fred Steiner. Steiner had this to say - "Van loved model trains. I was first introduced to H0 model railroading at his house; he had a couple of things that he had assembled, little locomotives in the H0 scale. He had a little layout to run around and of course I was fascinated, being a railroad lover since I was a child. So it wasn't too long after I went to California that I began to get into H0 railroading too."    Posted:   May 30, 2016 - 10:01 AM     By:   Last Child   (Member) I think Freud would have a few observations about Ony's toy train obsession here... Toys and models are different, and I could care less what an uptight old man thinks of my obsessions. Very interesting......but I hope you're referring to me, since Freud wasnt an uptight old man (just as you distinguish between toys and models).    Posted:   May 30, 2016 - 10:10 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) Very interesting......but I hope you're referring to me, since Freud wasnt an uptight old man (just as you distinguish between toys and models). He was old when I was hanging with him. Maybe he was having a bad day.    Posted:   May 30, 2016 - 11:18 AM     By:   Timmer   (Member) Does Frank Sinatra count? He had a massive railway layout.    Posted:   May 30, 2016 - 11:25 AM     By:   Timmer   (Member) Not a film composer but Rod Stewart's railroad layout is truly awesome...    Posted:   May 30, 2016 - 11:29 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) Does Frank Sinatra count? He had a massive railway layout. Sinatra always counts!    Posted:   May 30, 2016 - 3:15 PM     By:   Graham Watt   (Member) I didn't realise that "Soundtrack" magazine had its old material archived. If I do this right, you should see the article I mentioned earlier. The train layout anecdote is in the last paragraph of the introduction. http://www.runmovies.eu/?p=1619 Fine article, great publication.    Posted:   Jun 26, 2016 - 8:29 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) I didn't realise that "Soundtrack" magazine had its old material archived. If I do this right, you should see the article I mentioned earlier. The train layout anecdote is in the last paragraph of the introduction. http://www.runmovies.eu/?p=1619 Fine article, great publication. That is very cool! I did not know that! How is Soundtrack magazine? I never read it?    Posted:   Jun 26, 2016 - 9:03 AM     By:   Jim Doherty   (Member) I mean, sure, I get the connection between PACIFIC 231 and "Did Honneger Have a Train Layout," but, honestly, this has to be one of the oddest (and strangely, at the same time, amusing) questions I have ever seen on this board. Really, no offense intended, but it really did make me laugh. Thank you. Elmer Bernstein and Ray and Charles Eames also thank you.     General Discussion: Did Honneger Have a Train Layout?    < 1  >   Go to page:  1   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1

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