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 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   Zoe Potter   (Member)

I realize that it's still a little soon to discuss this even though it has been 11 months since James Horner's untimely passing in a plane crash. But I want to ask if anyone has any idea as to who is writing the music to the film. Of course the movie has sadly been pushed back to Christmas 2018 as to avoid the Eighth installment of Star Wars.

I would say that James Newton Howard would be a good composer for it. John Williams as well (even though I don't really like his music.)

Would you rather have Cameron edit Horner's old score to fit the new movie or have a new composer write it.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

James Newton Howard would be the best choice by far, based on stuff he's done like Dinosaur which would seem to fit in well with the semi-ethnic orchestral sound world Horner established in the first score.

I suspect Joel McNeely would also do a superb job if given the chance, and he's actually worked with Cameron relatively recently.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 10:11 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Marco Beltrami or Christopher Young.... only good candidates left...

JNH is way too exhausted and generic these days, but on the other hand if anyone can make him do something good for a change, its probably Cameron.

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

I have no doubt that James Newton Howard or Chris Young would do a perfectly fine job, but the prospect of Joel McNeely getting a shot at these films gives me chills. This is just the gig to finally put him where he deserves to be. Hopefully, whoever gets it would be free to strike out on their own and not necessarily be tied to the first score.

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 10:17 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

James Newton Howard is the obvious choice. Another vote for that.

But there are any number of composers who could do a wonderful job with this. It would be great if Cameron reunited with Silvestri (who also needs to up his game -- he hasn't really impressed me much since THE MUMMY RETURNS, and that's what -- 15 years ago?), but that's very unlikely.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 10:37 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

I'd love to see someone like Yoko Kanno do the music for Avatar. Wouldn't that be cool?

Alan Silvestri also came to mind too - he did do Ferngully: The Last Rainforest which in my and several others opinion is AVATAR. smile

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'd love to see someone like Yoko Kanno do the music for Avatar. Wouldn't that be cool?

Alan Silvestri also came to mind too - he did do Ferngully: The Last Rainforest which in my and several others opinion is AVATAR. smile


Silvestri is great at ethnic stuff (and I'm not only talking about the PREDATORS or MUMMY RETURNS), and he's the kind of lush composer Horner was -- although sounding very differently. It would be very intriguing to hear him approach this. But it's not going to happen.

If you want more hardcore ethnomusical composers, there's always Mychael Danna. But I'm not sure he has the "emotional scope" necessary -- despite the superb LIFE OF PI.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 10:47 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Would you rather have Cameron edit Horner's old score to fit the new movie or have a new composer write it.

Given that there are three sequels coming, that would be quite a stretch.

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 10:50 AM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

I've love to see Junkie XL or maybe Henry Jackman take over. I'm really worried that those guys are not working enough and are having trouble meeting their financial obligations and feeding their families.

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   Washu   (Member)

Given that there are three sequels coming, that would be quite a stretch.
Four sequels: http://variety.com/2016/film/news/james-cameron-avatar-1201753774/

I have already predicted that Hans Zimmer (and probably Junkie XL as well) will (sadly) do it.

Isn't James Newton Howard too busy with that new Harry Potter trilogy thing by the way?

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Mychael Danna is an interesting suggestion I hadn't considered, Thor. He could certainly handle the atmospheric and ethnic angles; how would he be with the requisite action music? I'm not sure whether his Hulk score being tossed bodes well, but who knows?

Yavar

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

Elf Man

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 10:57 AM   
 By:   1977   (Member)

JNH or Joel McNeely. The latter is unlikely as he really hasn't done anything this high profile (but I'd be ecstatic if he was chosen). John Debney also seems a possibility. Silvestri (I read somewhere) did not get on with Cameron so doubt it would happen.

Just please not HZ or any RC composers. They've cornered the big tentpole movie market long enough.

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   Isaac The Red   (Member)

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 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   1977   (Member)

My prefered choice would be David Arnold. He really needs to get back to work.

Great choice, works for me

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 11:14 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

JNH or Joel McNeely. The latter is unlikely as he really hasn't done anything this high profile (but I'd be ecstatic if he was chosen). John Debney also seems a possibility.

Debney might do a decent job, and his recent Jungle Book score was pretty excellent. But don't count out McNeely! I think aptitude and composer/director relationship is most important at this point. If anybody has carte blanche to pick the composer they want, it'd be James Cameron on Avatar. Make the most successful movie of all time -- twice -- and I think you have a little leeway to make your own decisions on creative personnel. Heck, McNeely's last big assignment (A Million Ways to Die in the West) was a big budget Hollywood film (even though it flopped)...his friend Seth MacFarlane was able to hire him for that and he'd only produced one prior hit.

Remember how this random guy named Marc Streitenfeld starting scoring every Ridley Scott film for a while? He came out of nowhere, certainly not as well known as Joel McNeely. Yet he was allowed to work on one big budget Hollywood film after another.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   1977   (Member)

How about if Cameron gets four different composers, one to score each sequel. Then we can have JNH, McNeely, Debney and Arnold!

They can even work concurrently, shortening the timelines and hopefully mitigating the risk of nervous breakdowns wink

Seriously, one composer committing to all four sequels would be quite taxing, based on Cameron's modus operandi and the timelines for this project. Didn't Horner work on the first one almost exclusively for a whole year?

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   1977   (Member)

Remember how this random guy named Marc Streitenfeld starting scoring every Ridley Scott film for a while? He came out of nowhere, certainly not as well known as Joel McNeely. Yet he was allowed to work on one big budget Hollywood film after another.

Yavar


True, Yavar, but it seems younger composers (I even hesitate to use the word) get all the breaks in Hollywood these days, while talented musicians who came to prominence in the 90's like McNeely and Arnold get the scraps (excluding Arnold's Bond scores).

Anyway, as long as we don't get some anonymous non-thematic droning for 3 hours x 4 movies...

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

John Scott Mike Verta Joel McNeely Frederic Talgorn David Arnold Bruce Broughton Christopher Gunning Dennis McCarthy

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2016 - 11:50 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Given that there are three sequels coming, that would be quite a stretch.
Four sequels: http://variety.com/2016/film/news/james-cameron-avatar-1201753774/


Right. I lost count.

The composer who does it will be whoever James Cameron wants to do it. "Hollywood" has nothing to do with it.

And whoever does it will do it in the style Cameron chooses, and do five or six versions of most takes until it's what he wants. So the apparent fear that a Junkie XL (who goes by his real name now, no?) will change the franchise sound is misplaced.

 
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