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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1      General Discussion: Are these scores on iTunes/Google Play illegal?   Last Post   Posted:   May 28, 2016 - 7:39 AM     By:   1977   (Member) I've noticed that many older scores (like from the 30's-60's) are available for purchase as DL on iTunes and Google Play Music among others, with the copyright holders listed as Classic Soundtrack Collector, Salt & Pepper, TP4, and of course the famous Harkit, amongst others. For example, A Gathering Of Eagles, Studs Lonigan, Men In War, City Of Fear, The Prize, Lonely Are the Brave, Fall Of the Roman Empire (same tracks as LLL) and many others are available. Are these legit labels? I know there was some discussion here (http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=113800&forumID=1&archive=0) about Red Bitch Music being a non-legit source but being able to release stuff due to public domain laws for scores older than 50 years in the EU? If this is true, how could that apply to music produced in the US? All of the above titles are also available on at least the US iTunes store. If these are not legit, why don't the copyright holders send cease and desist notices to Apple et al? I'm confused. Also, does anyone know why the same albums are listed more than once on the DL sites? For example, First Knight appears twice on iTunes. Same price, same tracklist, same album art, same copyright holder, same release date. I've seen it a lot with a number of titles.    Posted:   Jun 11, 2016 - 4:16 AM     By:   1977   (Member) Bump. Anyone know anything about this?    Posted:   Jun 11, 2016 - 4:25 AM     By:   slint   (Member) Don't know about iTunes and Google Play because I've never bought lossy music, but I know that quite a few sketchy labels re-encode lossy music as FLAC to sell them as lossless options on 7digital or QoBuz. I've never understood the legit or non-legit question, but even if that was legit, that's a scam to the buyer.    Posted:   Jun 11, 2016 - 4:38 AM     By:   1977   (Member) Don't know about iTunes and Google Play because I've never bought lossy music, but I know that quite a few sketchy labels re-encode lossy music as FLAC to sell them as lossless options on 7digital or QoBuz. I've never understood the legit or non-legit question, but even if that was legit, that's a scam to the buyer. My point is aren't Google and Apple reputable companies? Why would they permit unlicenced music to be sold through their online stores? And if these titles aren't legit, why don't the licence holders complain?    Posted:   Jun 11, 2016 - 5:42 AM     By:   MCurry29   (Member) Yes, all downloads are illegal.    Posted:   Jun 11, 2016 - 7:40 AM     By:   T.J. Turner   (Member) Don't know about iTunes and Google Play because I've never bought lossy music, but I know that quite a few sketchy labels re-encode lossy music as FLAC to sell them as lossless options on 7digital or QoBuz. I've never understood the legit or non-legit question, but even if that was legit, that's a scam to the buyer. My point is aren't Google and Apple reputable companies? Why would they permit unlicenced music to be sold through their online stores? And if these titles aren't legit, why don't the licence holders complain? Why just jump to the conclusion that they are illegal?    Posted:   Jun 11, 2016 - 8:29 AM     By:   slint   (Member) Don't know about iTunes and Google Play because I've never bought lossy music, but I know that quite a few sketchy labels re-encode lossy music as FLAC to sell them as lossless options on 7digital or QoBuz. I've never understood the legit or non-legit question, but even if that was legit, that's a scam to the buyer. My point is aren't Google and Apple reputable companies? Why would they permit unlicenced music to be sold through their online stores? And if these titles aren't legit, why don't the licence holders complain? They only allow lossy music, so I think that answers the question about reputability.    Posted:   Jun 11, 2016 - 8:48 AM     By:   FalkirkBairn   (Member) What about the reputation of all the big name labels that release lossy music?    Posted:   Jun 11, 2016 - 10:18 AM     By:   T.J. Turner   (Member) What about the reputation of all the big name labels that release lossy music? When they take that lossy music and burn them on pressed CDs (G.I. Joe, Rain Man) then I have a problem with it. Actually I don't know why lossy music is still as popular as it is. It's so 1998! There's no reason for it in 2016! Computers come with at least a 2TB of space, I just recently bought a 5TB external drive and a 4TB MyCloud Network Drive. Many cellphones support SDcards upto 128GB, The last USB flash drive I bought was 256GB. Tidal streams lossless. Even my 2013 Chevrolet Malibu can play lossless files! Why are we still using MP3?    Posted:   Jun 11, 2016 - 10:53 AM     By:   Solium   (Member) What about the reputation of all the big name labels that release lossy music? When they take that lossy music and burn them on pressed CDs (G.I. Joe, Rain Man) then I have a problem with it. Actually I don't know why lossy music is still as popular as it is. It's so 1998! There's no reason for it in 2016! Computers come with at least a 2TB of space, I just recently bought a 5TB external drive and a 4TB MyCloud Network Drive. Many cellphones support SDcards upto 128GB, The last USB flash drive I bought was 256GB. Tidal streams lossless. Even my 2013 Chevrolet Malibu can play lossless files! Why are we still using MP3? A lot of ppl don't have computers anymore. It does a fraction of the sales it used to do. People love their portable devices. Lossy music is still popular because of the way ppl listen to music. Which is unfocused. The young crowd are ADD and usually do three things at once.    Posted:   Jun 11, 2016 - 12:23 PM     By:   TerraEpon   (Member) It's popular because it's ubiqutous and people don't care. They can't tell the difference and don't care/know about other benefits. As for iTunes and Gplay being 'reputable' -- they can't exactly research every record label that comes their way just to be sure they have all the proper licenses. Just imagine the thousands upon thousands of albums on these places.    Posted:   Jun 11, 2016 - 12:55 PM     By:   1977   (Member) As for iTunes and Gplay being 'reputable' -- they can't exactly research every record label that comes their way just to be sure they have all the proper licenses. Just imagine the thousands upon thousands of albums on these places. Well imagine the lawsuits if they did allow an illegal title to be downloaded via their service. Especially since the music industry has lost billions due to illegal downloads already. Surely there must be an industry body like the RIAA that regulates the DL services and audits their catalogues for legitimacy?    Posted:   Jun 11, 2016 - 1:00 PM     By:   1977   (Member) They only allow lossy music, so I think that answers the question about reputability. What does reputability have to do with lossy downloads? Dvd's also use lossy compression.    Posted:   Jun 11, 2016 - 1:03 PM     By:   1977   (Member) Why just jump to the conclusion that they are illegal? If you read my first post you will notice that I was asking whether these labels were legit. No jumping to conclusions involved.     General Discussion: Are these scores on iTunes/Google Play illegal?    < 1  >   Go to page:  1   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1

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