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 Posted:   Jun 18, 2016 - 6:21 AM   
 By:   jsmiley108   (Member)

Could someone please direct me to any threads where there has been a discussion on the infuence of Mars from The Planets (Holst) and specific film scores. At the moment I have been looking at "The Battle" from Gladiator and The "Imperial Attack" from Star Wars IV

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2016 - 7:04 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I don't think there is one like you are wanting, but I did find this from 2006:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=36671&forumID=1&archive=1

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2016 - 7:26 AM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

This thread discusses its usage in some scores:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=35405&forumID=1&archive=1

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2016 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Silvestri's "Gunfight Montage" from THE QUICK AND THE DEAD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xZbQnNzKIw

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2016 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

If there is something about that music it's the embodiment of relentlessness:

dadada da da da-da-da

I think that sort of notion was used by JW in War Of The Worlds to denote the same emphasis with the Martians. It appears in the Morgan Freeman prologue and the Intersection Scene - it's saying like there is something of immense productivity in the wholesale distribution of destruction. Jeff Wayne's WOTW also embodies that sense of never-ending, indefatigable machination.

Incidentally, the Jeff Wayne production begins with dadada da da da-da-da, only, in a slightly different rhythm.

Think Beethoven!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2016 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   daretodream   (Member)

The Perils of Gotham comes to mind.

https://youtu.be/JRQa-whNQC4?t=1m19s

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2016 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

Dark City - The Strangers are Tuning.
https://youtu.be/E26UmKEYW1w?t=1m50s

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2016 - 1:59 PM   
 By:   mikael488   (Member)

The tracks "Nung River" from the Apocalypse Now soundtrack and "The Jupiter Menace" from the documentary film of the same name are both clearly inspired by Holst's Mars.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2016 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Two examples come to mind to Mars, Bringer of War:

Silvestri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZF8zffFf3k


And... ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RthkoBOCmeM

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2016 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Two examples come to mind to Mars, Bringer of War:

Silvestri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZF8zffFf3k



Gosh, that sure sounds a LOT like the example I provided above....

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2016 - 5:11 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Yeah, I scrolled passed your post and missed that.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2016 - 6:17 PM   
 By:   musicpaladin2007   (Member)

I believe that Cliff Eidelman's Star Trek VI score has some resemblance to Holst's Planets, as the producers originally wanted to use it as the actual score. I'm glad they didn't actually go this route, but believe it still has influence on what Cliff wrote for the score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2016 - 7:01 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

I believe that Cliff Eidelman's Star Trek VI score has some resemblance to Holst's Planets, as the producers originally wanted to use it as the actual score. I'm glad they didn't actually go this route, but believe it still has influence on what Cliff wrote for the score.

It's pretty obvious. And yes, I'm glad they didn't go down that route too. There's no need for Kubrick'isms in Star Trek.

 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2016 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

Apologies that this isn't from a film, but I've just been listening to the "Kingdoms Of Amalur: Reckoning" video game soundtrack for the first time today, and this particular track has a few bits that reminded me of Holst's "Mars".

Track 5: Troll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy8YaiEkh8c

 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2016 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Jeff Wayne's WOTW also embodies that sense of never-ending, indefatigable machination.
Incidentally, the Jeff Wayne production begins with dadada da da da-da-da, only, in a slightly different rhythm.



Gawd-DAMN, I love that album!
Nearly 40 years on and I still play it all the time.
smile

 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2016 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Little bit about Bill Conti and Philip Kaufman discussing Holst and "The Right Stuff" here:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=60422&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2016 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

It's really just a rhythmic pattern:
if you are a drummer it would be notated as
One-and-a TWO and-a THREE and-a FOUR+ FIVE+

now go practice that on your drum pad!
LOL!
bruce

 
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