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 Posted:   Jul 2, 2016 - 4:39 PM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

Sorry to be repetitive, but I decided to re-post this reply with a better title than the original generic "Solving a Mystery" title for those who might be searching for Goldsmith, Herrmann, and TransWorld Recorded Library topics, or who might have a special interest in this esoteric subject. I suspect it will appeal mostly to us old timers. But, who knows?

Ron Burbella

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Posted: May 27, 2012 - 10:31 PM Report Abuse Reply to Post
By: prgjg (Member)

Hi -

Has anyone ever heard of Autumn Love? According to the Jerry Goldsmith Online website, it was one of the shows JG composed for the "Theater of Romance" radio program. It is listed after Lost Horizon, under the Romance heading. My searches for confirmation (or episodic log listings) come up empty. However, one search DID find 7 cues called Autumn Love [1-7] on a British Music Library collection called TransWorld Recorded Library, on 12" 78rpm vinyl. The records' release year was 1963. The cues exist (they're also used on Twilight Zone), but I'd like to know their origin - any help??
http://www.goldsmith-filmmusic.com/musum/tworld26sp.htm

Thanks,
Paul Giammarco
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Posted: Jul 2, 2016 - 6:25 PM Edit Post Report Abuse Reply to Post
By: RonBurbella (Member)

Hi Paul et al,

This post, over 4 years ago, put me on a leisurely personal quest for these items. I had not heard of them before.
The existence of recordings of "early" Jerrald Goldsmith (as he is credited on the labels) radio library cues was intriguing.

I researched the listed address of the music library service and really couldn't find much.
TransWorld Recorded Library
21 Denmark Street
London WC2

Then - 78s in the 1960s???
Just WHY someone would go to the trouble to press archival-sounding 78rpm recordings in 1962-1964 if the original tapes were available was not easy for me to rationalize. By the way, the eight Goldsmith 78s in the series were 10-inch pressings, not 12-inch pressings. I am not a sound engineer, but judging from the "sound" of the TransWorld 78s, I would render a guess that the original sources were themselves 78rpm recordings, with their inherent static and even what seems to me oversaturation in some cues. The TransWorld pressings appear to be VINYL 78s, not shellac. One 78 with a paper sleeve (but perhaps not the original paper sleeve?) says "This record is made possible from pure unfilled plastic and and complies with the most exacting standards. Best results are obtained by the use of a lightweight pickup, the stylus of which should be checked at frequent intervals to see that it is not chipped. Store in a cool place." Also, it says "Processed and pressed for the publishers by C. H. RUMBLE, LTD. - Redhill - Surrey." Apparently there was such a company, but there is not much information to be found now. I laughed to myself that a record pressing company had a name that was synonymous with a type of turntable noise and wondered if it was some sort of joke. But it seems to be legit.

COPYRIGHT
The inscription around the periphery of the label says "Issued by Television Music Limited with the authority of the Trade Mark Proprietors. All rights of the manufacturer and of the owner of the recorded works reserved. Unauthorized public performance, broadcasting, and copying prohibited. Made in England." Apparently there was such an entity in years past.
I'm presuming these cues were licensed from the CBS Music Library, but there don't seem to be any CBS EZ-CUE selections here.

THE MUSIC CUES
From what I could determine, it seems that these 78s were not pressed in high numbers. They are really hard-to-find. Below are the contents. Sound quality is all over that map, even with a near-mint looking 78 sounding scratchy. I suppose that this reflects the original source. Each side has about 3 minutes of music. On TR. 56a, the first cue on side one ("Try To Swing It") is by Horst Jankowski. All the rest are by Jerry Goldsmith. Pressings 21-26 (1963) are dramatic cues. Pressings 56-57 (1964) are jazzy cues.

JERRALD GOLDSMITH - TransWorld Recorded Library Music Cues (UK) (1963-1964) (78rpm)
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TR. 21a: (1) Terror Struck................(1:55)...............................(1963)
(2) Challenge.....................(0:46)
TR. 21b: (1) The Meeting.................(1:15)
(2) The Meeting 2..............(0:43)
(3) The Hostage................(0:37)
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TR. 22a: (1) The Robbery................(2:08)...............................(1963)
(2) The Fight......................(0:31)
TR. 22b: (1) The Robbery 2.............(2:17)
(2) The Visit......................(0:22)
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TR. 23a: (1) The Captive...................(1:22)...............................(1963)
(2) Guilty Party....................(0:34)
(3) Unfriendly Visit..............(0:21)
(4) Scene of the Crime.......(0:16)
TR. 23b: (1) Friendly Talk................(1:40)
(2) Remember..................(1:15)
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TR. 24a: (1) Restless Moment..........(1:38)................................(1963)
(2) Easy Moment...............(1:25)
TR. 24b: (1) Heartbreak....................(1:36)
(2) Contemplation..............(1:27)
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TR. 25a: (1) Lonely Moment.............(1:55)...............................(1963)
(2) Autumn Love 1..............(0:46)
TR. 25b: (1) Autumn Love 2..............(1:35)
(2) Autumn Love 5..............(1:32)
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TR. 26a: (1) Autumn Love 3...............(1:55)...............................(1963)
(2) Autumn Love 7................(0:21)
TR. 26b: (1) Autumn Love 4...............(1:44)
(2) Autumn Love 6...............(1:13)
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TR. 56a: (1) Try To Swing It.................(2:04)...(Horst Jankowski).(1964)
(2) Discovered.......................(0:55)
(3) Sergeant and Lady..........(1:21)
TR. 56b: (1) Sergeant and Lady 2.......(0:19)
(2) On The Prowl..................(0:56)
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TR. 57a: (1) Enroute............................(0:52)...............................(1964)
(2) City Mood.........................(2:16)
TR. 57b: (1) Jailbreak..........................(1:55)
(2) Line Up............................(1:00)
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THEATER OF ROMANCE (Radio Show) and "AUTUMN LOVE" cues
I could not find an episode titled "Autumn Love" listed, so perhaps it's just a cue title, not an episode title.
https://archive.org/details/OTRR_Certified_Romance_Singles
http://www.digitaldeliftp.com/DigitalDeliToo/dd2jb-Romance.html
http://www.vintageradioshows.com/display_shows.php?sid=454


BERNARD HERRMANN SIDE NOTE
It seems that this same series also licensed Bernard Herrmann music from the CBS Music Library.
The University of California - Santa Barbara has a collection of Bernard Herrmann TransWorld cues (1962-1964)
http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/tf438nb3jd/dsc/#c02-1.7.7.5.6

I think that this sums up what there is to be found.
Amen.


Ron Burbella

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2016 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Zooba also mentioned the AUTUMN LOVE cues were from radio CBS series Theater of Romance:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=102316&forumID=1&archive=0

For starters, DavidinBerkeley specified a few episodes as being scored by Jerry:
108 Lost Horizon
110 Lord Sweeney
111 The Kruetzen
112 Cordoba
188 The Bachelor
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=44676&forumID=1&archive=0

This might be a repetition of the UCLA library info in the link above, but Bill Wrobel mentions the cues in his CBS rundown:
http://www.filmscorerundowns.net/other/cbs_collection.pdf

Ron, I've been trying to get in touch with you but no reply. frown

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2016 - 4:53 PM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

Posted: Jul 2, 2016 - 7:46 PM Report Abuse Reply to Post
By: Last Child (Member)

Ron, I've been trying to get in touch with you but no reply.
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My e-mail is in my profile. Does that help?

Ron Burbella

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2016 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

My e-mail is in my profile. Does that help?
Ron Burbella


That's the email I've tried. We have communicated before, but maybe I'm on your Spam list?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2016 - 5:35 PM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

No spam. No e-mail.
I tried sending you an e-mail to the one in your profile.
Let me know if it got there.

Ron

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2016 - 5:59 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

No spam. No e-mail.
I tried sending you an e-mail to the one in your profile.
Let me know if it got there.
Ron


yep, thanks. Just replied.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2016 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   merlyn   (Member)

Hi Ron Brillaint research thank you

 
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