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 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 2:44 PM   
 By:   akhnaton   (Member)

Is this CD out of print?
Tried to purchase on Amazon - ridiculous price of $76.99 !
Not available at SA or Moviemusic store either.
Why? - the film only recently was released.
Does anyone know why it is so high?

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

The film was a flop. They probably stopped pressing the disc almost immediately. It's scarcity means those who have it are seeing what they can get.

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   thegreatmry   (Member)

Pretty sure it's an Intrada exclusive. Should be available from their store.

Edit: welp nvm

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 5:03 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

It's the same thing that happened with John Carter. I went online to buy it and it's already out of print and going for more than I care to pay.

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Was it Intrada? I can't find it on their site and they usually post warnings when a title is getting low or going out of print. Regardless wow, OOP within 12 months?

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 5:48 PM   
 By:   Frank Vincent   (Member)

Was it Intrada? I can't find it on their site and they usually post warnings when a title is getting low or going out of print. Regardless wow, OOP within 12 months?

No, Disney released the CD themselves.

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 5:51 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Was it Intrada? I can't find it on their site and they usually post warnings when a title is getting low or going out of print. Regardless wow, OOP within 12 months?

No, Disney released the CD themselves.


Thxs. That makes it more shocking.

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 6:13 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Disney released the CD themselves.

Thxs. That makes it more shocking.


Why? Given the film's performance, I'm sure it wasn't selling. Why keep making them? The score is available for download and streaming, which are increasingly the ways people choose to listen to music. A collector's item keepsake (a CD) was likely not worth it.

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 7:03 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

The score is available for download and streaming, which are increasingly the ways people choose to listen to music.


That's quite a bold statement and I don't agree.
It's my sense that film score buffs who download their albums are in the minority. We do it if we have to.
I would venture to say that most of us still prefer a physical format with which we buy our music.
Conversely, those that download as their purchase preference are probably not film score buffs.

Do I have hard data to back this up? Nope. Just a feeling I get from anecdotes on discussion boards such as this one.
But then, you probably have no data to back up your claim either.

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 8:04 PM   
 By:   A. A. Ron   (Member)

The score is available for download and streaming, which are increasingly the ways people choose to listen to music.


That's quite a bold statement and I don't agree.
It's my sense that film score buffs who download their albums are in the minority. We do it if we have to.
I would venture to say that most of us still prefer a physical format with which we buy our music.
Conversely, those that download as their purchase preference are probably not film score buffs.

Do I have hard data to back this up? Nope. Just a feeling I get from anecdotes on discussion boards such as this one.
But then, you probably have no data to back up your claim either.


People who download albums are the vast majority in the music industry, period. You don't have to like it, that's just the way it is. And guess what? That majority is who Disney is trying to market this toward, NOT "film score buffs." I know that sounds weird, making a score album without considering the whims of the actual score fans, but it's absolutely the way they do business. They make albums more for fans of the film, fans of Disney collectibles and anyone else who might be casually interested in this music. That's the way they approach these projects before ever even giving a thought to "film score buffs." How many of us are there anyway? A few thousand? That's nothing to them.

Another consideration: The average age here and at forums like JWFan, MainTitles and FilmTracks probably skews older. Younger fans are still more casual about the hobby or are quite frankly too busy with their social lives to spend hours on these forums grousing about the release format of their favorite titles. Given a couple decades, I'm sure these forums will be full of people who prefer digital releases, even if our specialty labels are somehow still pressing physical discs by then.

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 8:35 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Great.
Corporate apologists.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 8:37 PM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

Funnily enough, I was thinking the other day, "I need to buy Tomorrowland!" You can imagine my surprise when I looked for it on Amazon.

Oh well. I'll download it if I have to but I can wait to see if a cheap copy turns up somewhere. smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 9:49 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Poop...I always wanted to get this, but figured it'd show up in an Intrada sale at some point. frown Kind of insane that a score from a year ago is now OOP...what is this, 1987?

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 10:14 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

CitizenJoe said it perfectly. The "Tomorrowland" CD was not marketed to us, but to a general public who might love the film and want a keepsake or just to hear that music. But that seems not to have happened.

It's important to keep these quite distinct markets in mind. In recent weeks, we've had posts here that seem to conflate the two. One poster yearned for complete score releases the first time out, for a small price hike, but a release meant for a broader audience than us will never be complete (assuming the score is long) or expensive, because it is not aimed at the obsessives. Another questioned why Intrada was charging $22 for a CD when new discs for current films are often eight or ten dollars cheaper than that, and again, these two products are aimed at different potential markets and volume can make up for lower profit margins per unit.

Of course, we fans generally fall into both markets.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2016 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Great.
Corporate apologists.


There's a few on here.

As far as downloading I'm sure Disney sells a lot of teeny pop music via iTunes, but Tomorrowland? Give me a break!

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2016 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Great.
Corporate apologists.


Is this a joke? I really don't understand what you mean. Please explain. (And apologies if I'm just missing the joke.)

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2016 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

This is a travesty! I wanted to get it on cd and now it's nowhere available. What a shame!

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2016 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

As far as downloading I'm sure Disney sells a lot of teeny pop music via iTunes, but Tomorrowland? Give me a break!

Seriously, can you be this oblivious? Take the collector mentality out of the equation. Yes, film scores are sold on download sites. Absolutely. 100%.

Why do you think that La La Land just made a deal to provide Paramount film scores to iTunes? So nobody could buy them?

When you add streaming to the mix, I happen to know one person who listened to "Tomorrowland" just yesterday on Apple Music. (I'm that person, inspired by this thread.)

Furthermore, when did it become Disney's responsibility to keep this CD in print for us?

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2016 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Is this a joke? I really don't understand what you mean. Please explain. (And apologies if I'm just missing the joke.)


Yes, it is a joke.
But seeing as you asked--you probably didn't get it because you seem to spend most of your posts rationalizing the "anti-consumer" mindset that is so prevalent amongst music corporations nowadays. It comes off as seeming to minimize or marginalize the opinions expressed by others, as though we consumers are the fools for wanting companies to actually market their product to us in a way in which we want to buy it.
And using sweeping over-generalizations about music buyers without linking to stats to back them up doesn't help, either.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2016 - 9:44 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I'm sorry you feel that way, Octoberman. It's funny, because I had dinner with my father-in-law last night, and he considers me an anti-free-market lefty who's destroying the country! (He doesn't actually think I'm destroying the country – at least I don't think so – but he thinks I've been brainwashed by anti-corporate liberal propaganda.)

Just to clarify, as a consumer, I'm pro-consumer. But I get the feeling a lot of people who post here feel the studios owe us complete soundtrack releases as some sort of cultural imperative. And that the labels owe us these releases at a price of our choosing. And presented a certain way (mastered to our own tastes, without crossfades or with crossfades, and on and on). And I guess when I see this attitude, which I consider a strange sense of entitlement, my instinct is to defend the people being complained about.

Look, I've worked in the entertainment business for nearly a quarter of a century. (Yeesh!) I've worked for every major studio but one, and have firsthand personal reasons to hate them all. But that doesn't mean that I believe (for instance) that Disney has some strange obligation to keep the score for "Tomorrowland" available on CD forever, regardless of the economics of that. That just doesn't make sense to me.

 
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