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 Posted:   Aug 18, 2016 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

cue title: 5m4 - No User


Composed by Jerry Goldsmith

orchestrated by Alexander Courage




Midi to MP3 conversion

music transcribed from the original sheet


Yes, a score was composed for this film by Goldsmith.

So far I know there are 148 pages of score aivalable, if more exist I don't know, I don't know if a score was recorded.






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOiKUIupsrE

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2016 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Good job. I knew when I saw those score sheets were online, somebody was going to try and do this eventually.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2016 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

According to engineer Mike Ross-Trevor, Goldsmith's score WAS recorded...the real question is why none of the labels have put it out. Varese might control the title due to their release of Isham's score which was used for the film, but why a Goldsmith fan like Robert Townson would avoid releasing this I have no idea...

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2016 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Mark Langdon   (Member)

According to engineer Mike Ross-Trevor, Goldsmith's score WAS recorded...the real question is why none of the labels have put it out. Varese might control the title due to their release of Isham's score which was used for the film, but why a Goldsmith fan like Robert Townson would avoid releasing this I have no idea...

Yavar


Perhaps Goldsmith didn't want it released for some reason, similar to the situation with John Williams and THE SUGARLAND EXPRESS?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2016 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   CCOJOE   (Member)

Why doesn't someone ask him? Let's get a public response for Public Eye.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2016 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   Mark Langdon   (Member)

Why doesn't someone ask him? Let's get a public response for Public Eye.

I assume you're replying to Yavar's post, unless you are proposing a séance.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2016 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Forgive me for saying so, but when topics like this come up it's as if the labels are just waiting for us to tell them that these things exist and then they'll instantly release them.

My guess is that all the major labels are fully aware of this score and would all love to release it. It isn't awaiting a fan letter writing campaign.

Maybe it's in the pipeline in which case no one will tell you.

Or maybe there's a problem with licensing, permissions or elements in which case somebody *might* tell you.

It's worth asking the question, "Why this not out?" but I'm sure it doesn't need a letter writing campaign.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2016 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Awesome. Sounds like The Vanishing, which is a score I really like.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2016 - 11:05 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Forgive me for saying so, but when topics like this come up it's as if the labels are just waiting for us to tell them that these things exist and then they'll instantly release them.

My guess is that all the major labels are fully aware of this score and would all love to release it. It isn't awaiting a fan letter writing campaign.

Maybe it's in the pipeline in which case no one will tell you.

Or maybe there's a problem with licensing, permissions or elements in which case somebody *might* tell you.

It's worth asking the question, "Why this not out?" but I'm sure it doesn't need a letter writing campaign.

Cheers


Agreed, all the people that run and work the small soundtrack labels are aware of all the same things we talk about here, they're not guys in suits sitting in ivory towers who wait to be told there is a rejected Goldsmith score out there. There are other factors at play, factors that we as the consumer or fanbase have no knowledge of and typically aren't really supposed to be aware of, all the things noted above.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2016 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Who is this Goldsmith chap? I will have to set up a focus group and have my people look into this. It seems that we may very well have the next Bobby Darrin on our hands.

MV

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2016 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   Mark Langdon   (Member)

Forgive me for saying so, but when topics like this come up it's as if the labels are just waiting for us to tell them that these things exist and then they'll instantly release them.

My guess is that all the major labels are fully aware of this score and would all love to release it. It isn't awaiting a fan letter writing campaign.

Maybe it's in the pipeline in which case no one will tell you.

Or maybe there's a problem with licensing, permissions or elements in which case somebody *might* tell you.

It's worth asking the question, "Why this not out?" but I'm sure it doesn't need a letter writing campaign.

Cheers


I don't think anyone here has suggested a letter writing campaign, nor has anyone suggested the labels don't already know about THE PUBLIC EYE. People are just understandably curious why it's never been released, and somebody merely suggested asking. It's down to people asking questions that we know that the tracks for Goldsmith's PURSUIT are sadly lost, or that James Horner didn't want the original tracks for BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS released, or that TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD exists but a release is infuriatingly being prevented by one of the rights holders. It'd be nice to know the status behind THE PUBLIC EYE. If it can't be revealed for some reason but people aren't told that that's the case they'll inevitably keep asking. 'Tis the way of things.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2016 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Awesome. Sounds like The Vanishing, which is a score I really like.

It does indeed. Perhaps he reworked the whole thing into The Vanishing. Might explain why this has never been released...?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2016 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

Awesome. Sounds like The Vanishing, which is a score I really like.

It does indeed. Perhaps he reworked the whole thing into The Vanishing. Might explain why this has never been released...?



You'll get a chance to find out if this "sound" appears more than once in the score, more will eventually come when i get my hands onto it

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2016 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Who is this Goldsmith chap? I will have to set up a focus group and have my people look into this. It seems that we may very well have the next Bobby Darrin on our hands.

MV




You kids ! With your Bobby Darin and your Dave Clark Five !

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2016 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Unfortunately, where Goldsmith's score was recorded at, shut down years ago. If it was like a couple other places, they sent out notes to composers to collect their works or it was all trashed. If that's the case, that could be why we haven't had a release of this. Unless the Goldsmith estate has a copy.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2016 - 3:52 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

Good job. I knew when I saw those score sheets were online, somebody was going to try and do this eventually.


Intrigued. Where might one find these?

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2016 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

My guess is that the recording is MIA--but it sure sounds like there's music from Goldsmith's score in one of the early trailers and it sounds quite interesting. Definitely one of the biggest mysteries in the Goldsmith canon considering when it was done.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2016 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   patrick_runkle   (Member)

Any stainless steel mixing bowls noted on the score sheets?

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2016 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I forgot about this, but here's a tracklisting from a blog that appears to have cue sheet listings for multiple scores:
R1P1 Main Title (Theme from The Public Eye)
R1P2 First Sale
R1P2A Morning Edition
R1P4 Morning Call
R3P2 The Body
R3P4 What's Up?
R4P2 Someone to Trust
R4P4 What's The Trouble?
R5P1 After Hours
R5P2 Black Gas
R5P4 No User
R5P5/R6P1 Snapshots
R6P3 The Alley
R7P1 Be Right Over
R7P4 New Evidence
R7P6/R8P0 Beauty and the Beast
R8P1 Ask Me---?
R8P3 Midnight Clear
R9P1 3 Months Pay
R9P2 The Slaughter
R10P1 Everything is True
R10P2 Turn It Off
R10P3 End Credits

Assuming each cue is an average of one minute, that makes it at least 23 minutes long, but you know there's longer cues in there. I'm betting an educated guess of about 50 minutes.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2016 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   CCOJOE   (Member)

I can't tell you how quickly I'd buy this up. Hope it comes out SOON!

So, I think I have a list of "holy grails" now, which I never bothered with in my previous 30 years of score collecting. Aside from Public Eye (and anything not released yet from the Goldsmith canon), there's Young Guns and Romeo and Juliet from James Horner and I would love to hear an official release of George Fenton's unused score for Interview with a Vampire (which was performed as a two-movement symphonic program, I believe).

Those would all be instant buys.

 
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