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 Posted:   Aug 19, 2016 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

I've been wondering for ages about the first use of the word "alien", as we use it now, in the movies. I maybe wrong, but I'm pretty sure that The Invaders really cemented its use in popular culture as meaning extra terrestrials. Before then the word is actually very hard to find.

Most times ETs were referred to as "beings", "things" and especially "creatures".

As far as I know, the earliest use of "alien" in the modern sense appears in Forbidden Planet, but it's in an out-take scene that never appeared in the finished movie (a good scene between Neilsen and crew speculating about the planet's inhabitants).

Know any other instances that predate The Invaders?

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2016 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Let's not talk about this. I have a feeling that if Trump becomes president, he's going to want to round up all alien movies and ship them out of the country.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2016 - 10:11 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

How about including TV shows, since you keep mentioning INVADERS. Maybe Science Fiction Theater or Outer Limits?

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2016 - 10:13 AM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

Let's not talk about this. I have a feeling that if Trump becomes president, he's going to want to round up all alien movies and ship them out of the country.

Well, that's the fastest derailment of a thread I've ever seen. big grin

Seriously though, I'm interested to know. Trump-free answers please.

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2016 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

How about including TV shows, since you keep mentioning INVADERS. Maybe Science Fiction Theater or Outer Limits?

Yeah! Anything, even literature.

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2016 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

What no mention of any Aliens or alien spaceships ever in b and w 50s sci fi?

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2016 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Dp

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2016 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I would think "alien" was used in literature way back since it was quite advanced compared to what was in the movie theaters.
"Queen of Blood"(1966) seemed like a good film to look for "alien" but they called them astronauts, their society or their civilization.
Was "Mr. Klaatu" called an alien?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2016 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

Well, it was certainly well-established in that usage by 1979, if not earlier. wink

Does television usage count, or must it be a theatrical feature?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2016 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Well, they used "alien" in Star Trek the year before The Invaders.

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2016 - 11:50 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

I wonder if it's used in the original Flash Gordon serial in the 1930s? I have it on DVD and am getting ready to watch it entirely again. I'll report back if I hear the term used.

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2016 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

I believe it's used in MAN FROM PLANET X.

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2016 - 1:46 PM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

"...in 1931, the word alien was first documented as referring to an intelligent being from another planet. (For any interested parties or science fiction aficionados, the OED traces this sense to the August 1931 issue of the American science fiction magazine Wonder Stories.)"

http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2013/07/aliens/

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2016 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

"...in 1931, the word alien was first documented as referring to an intelligent being from another planet. (For any interested parties or science fiction aficionados, the OED traces this sense to the August 1931 issue of the American science fiction magazine Wonder Stories.)"

http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2013/07/aliens/


That's just what I was about to say! wink

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2016 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

It's also used in KILLERS FROM SPACE with Peter Graves and NOT OF THIS EARTH ("Alien eyes").

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2016 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

Another rare early reference is from The Outer Limits ep The Invisibles '63, when an instructor name-checks an "alien" attachment with a corpse. No other OL instances spring to mind which is remarkable considering the nature of the show.

Star Trek indeed used the word a few times, eg in Arena when Sulu refers to the Gorn ship as "the alien" (note - rather than the Gorn itself), and Operation Annihilate when Kirk asks if any "alien forms" have been seen, plus Assignment Earth when Kirk speculates that Gary Seven might be an "invading alien from the future". But AFAIK that's about it for Trek. Pretty rare considering.

I'm convinced that The Invaders set the word in stone! After that, there were aliens everywhere! smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2016 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

Just heard it used in JOURNEY TO THE SEVENTH PLANET now showing on Comet TV.

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2016 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Just heard it used in JOURNEY TO THE SEVENTH PLANET now showing on Comet TV.

Ok, so that's a 1962 movie.

 
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