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 Posted:   Sep 8, 2016 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

On the Op-Ed page in today's New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/08/opinion/who-stole-my-star-trek.html?_r=0

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2016 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

For me, the original series is the only Star Trek.

That is all.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2016 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Thanks for posting, missed that. But oh am I tired of people kvetching about how great it used to be, whatever the "it" is. People have been doing that since, well, Hesiod!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2016 - 1:14 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

FWIW, I just dashed off this little epistle to the paper:


To the Editor:

If Vinciguerra knew how many fans dearly love the "bloated and boring" STAR TREK - THE MOTION PCTURE, he might be very surprised -- as I was, to hear from them when I wrote about the film. For all the criticism it's endured since 1979, ("Star Trek - The Motionless Picture"), Robert Wise's production embodied all the heart and soul Vinciguerra rightly finds deplorably absent in the recent reboots. It's that spirit, derived from Roddenberry' original TV series, that continues to move many viewers, and which, thanks to its box office success, was responsible for all the Star Trek movies and series which followed and continue to flourish -- for better or worse.

Preston Neal Jones
(Author, "Return to Tomorrow: The Filming of Star Trek - The Motion Picture")

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2016 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Nicely done, Preston. I've never stopped loving STTMP.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2016 - 1:33 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Maybe, Preston, it would have been worth the effort to point out the director of The Day The Earth Stood Still was the same in the case of The Motion Picture. The organisation Klaatu represents is a united federation of planets.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2016 - 1:34 PM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Nicely done, Preston. I've never stopped loving STTMP.

Here here.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2016 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Grecchus, where were you when I was writing my book?! That would have been a very nifty thing to point out, but I never thought of it. (I wonder if Mr. Wise ever did.)

FWIW, it's not too late for you to write your own letter to the Times. Go for it!

(Meanwhile, from now on, I'm going to share your thought whenever I'm speaking in public about the film.)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2016 - 6:00 PM   
 By:   Nightingale   (Member)

For me, the original series is the only Star Trek.

That is all.


I agree, but the 6 original cast movies (especially the first one) I say qualify for me, but that's it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2016 - 6:06 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Couldn't have said it better, Preston.

In fact, it was all that over-worship of Wrath of Khan that led trek-dom to the point we're at now, where every new Star Trek movie is a half-baked. not-terribly-well thought out remake of Wrath of Khan.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2016 - 6:54 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

For me, the original series is the only Star Trek.

That is all.



Yes. And like Nightingale said, the original 6 movies are my Trek too. So, I guess I would have to say Trek died for me sometime around when TNG premiered.... frown

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2016 - 11:34 PM   
 By:   Nightingale   (Member)

For me, the original series is the only Star Trek.

That is all.



Yes. And like Nightingale said, the original 6 movies are my Trek too. So, I guess I would have to say Trek died for me sometime around when TNG premiered.... frown


Adam B and jenkwombat , you're my new, best friends.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2016 - 4:44 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

For me, the original series is the only Star Trek.

That is all.


Me too!

Never liked the characters in TNG and DS9 bored me senseless (I also couldnt handle the appauling acting of Avery Brooks, quite the most wooden actor ever to have a lead role in any Trek ever). Voyager was quite good but not really Trek to me and Enterprise never really spoke to me.

Still love TOS to this day - even the bad episodes!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2016 - 4:46 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

Maybe, Preston, it would have been worth the effort to point out the director of The Day The Earth Stood Still was the same in the case of The Motion Picture. The organisation Klaatu represents is a united federation of planets.

There's another connection too - Robert Wise made The Day The Earth Stood Still and also made time stand still with ST:TMP too smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2016 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

You rarely start a thread, PNJ!

(Also, you have 3 names, so that makes this An Event! smile )

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2016 - 10:22 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

For me, the original series is the only Star Trek.

That is all.


I agree, but the 6 original cast movies (especially the first one) I say qualify for me, but that's it.


Yeah, but Roddenberry had little to do with TMP, when all was said and done, and almost nothing to do with the remaining films. But he did have a direct hand in more of TNG than even TOS. So...?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2016 - 3:26 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

Thanks for posting, missed that. But oh am I tired of people kvetching about how great it used to be, whatever the "it" is. People have been doing that since, well, Hesiod!

Only a few seconds longer than people mufting on and on about people kvetching about it.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2016 - 3:28 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

Nicely done, Preston. I've never stopped loving STTMP.

Here here.


Where where?

D.S.

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2016 - 6:14 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Nicely done, Preston. I've never stopped loving STTMP.

Here here.


Where where?

D.S.


smile

Hear hear? I`ve never actually seen that in print before.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2016 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

For me, the original series is the only Star Trek.

That is all.


I agree, but the 6 original cast movies (especially the first one) I say qualify for me, but that's it.


Yeah, but Roddenberry had little to do with TMP, when all was said and done, and almost nothing to do with the remaining films. But he did have a direct hand in more of TNG than even TOS. So...?


He may have had little to do, per se, but the effects of what he set in motion with the original series were very much felt during the making of TMP and are still felt down to this day. This cannot be taken for granted nor minimized. It is what you call a vision and a talent that will never be brought to ruin no matter how hard they try.

 
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