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 Posted:   Sep 22, 2016 - 10:09 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

This is one of those cases when I don't really know what I'm talking about, and I'm hoping one of the experts assembled here can straighten me out. I just caught an old David Wolper TV documentary on YouTube . . .



Is it just me, or does the motif first introduced at about 4:12 (also heard briefly at 5:40) sound familiar?

The main title theme of the program is credited to Elmer Bernstein. The rest of the music is by David Raksin's brother (I'd never heard of until just now), Ruby Raksin.

Help me out, folks. I'm flying on instruments.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2016 - 10:35 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Sounds like it to me!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 1:11 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Sounds like it to me!

I'm shocked i tell you shocked that a composer would recycle something from a long forgotten project into another one.....

:-)

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 5:00 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Is everybody 100% sure EB wasn't referencing an established song in the earlier documentary and then satirically recycling it for Airplane? Ruby Raksin was also an arranger who knocked up Jerome Kern songs.

The melody was always a close cousin to Steiner's 'Now Voyager' theme and 'Smoke Gets in Your Eyes'.

It sounds as though it took a lyric at some time. Are we sure it's not an hommage reference?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   roy phillippe   (Member)

This is one of those cases when I don't really know what I'm talking about, and I'm hoping one of the experts assembled here can straighten me out. I just caught an old David Wolper TV documentary on YouTube . . .



Is it just me, or does the motif first introduced at about 4:12 (also heard briefly at 5:40) sound familiar?

The main title theme of the program is credited to Elmer Bernstein. The rest of the music is by David Raksin's brother (I'd never heard of until just now), Ruby Raksin.

Help me out, folks. I'm flying on instruments.



Ruby Raksin composed mostly for documentaries and television series. A complete list of his work in Hollywood can be found at imdb.com.
He compiled an extensive book on click tracks which was used by composers and orchestrators for many years.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Yeah, for the theme to get the desired effect, a laugh, it has to sound like a cliché. Even Raksin's theme is hearkening back to a old style of orchestration. To me it sounds more like a vamp intro to one of Jolson's songs than a full blown love theme which gets the intended reaction of overly flowery lushness.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Is everybody 100% sure EB wasn't referencing an established song in the earlier documentary and then satirically recycling it for Airplane? Ruby Raksin was also an arranger who knocked up Jerome Kern songs.

The melody was always a close cousin to Steiner's 'Now Voyager' theme and 'Smoke Gets in Your Eyes'.

It sounds as though it took a lyric at some time. Are we sure it's not an hommage reference?


Heck, it even has a bit of the Father Knows Best to it, no? smile

 
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