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But I already have CDs of those. I'm slightly confused, are better sounding versions archived somewhere? I'd rather have something new and I wouldn't buy a straight reissue. Of course there are better versions available because the company Misiak in Hamburg which in the 90s did the mastering for all these Tsunami Korngold CDs here in Germany did in most cases use too much compression and denoising. And what was available for Tsunami at that time were only copies of copies of copies anyway. Above all ANTHONY ADVERSE and CAPTAIN BLOOD were even more affected in this way and even (boot) copies of the original recordings for them which were floating around on the soundtrack market some years ago sound therefore more natural than the Tsunami CDs. ANTHONY ADVERSE also would fill a double CD as Tsunami's Richard Kummerfeldt had cut a lot of the score to get it on one CD. Only the last Tsunami CD with JUAREZ/PRINCE AND THE PAUPER (not produced by Kummerfeldt anymore) from 2006 had a much better mastering and therefore can't be compared with the former ones. Unfortunately, the original sound recordings are apparently no longer in the possession of the Korngold family now as I have already written here: I have just read this info on the Korngold forum that apparently all sound recordings of the Korngold estate have in the meantime been donated to the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (AMPAS) by Korngold's grandson Leslie. So we are probably even farther away from any official CD releases of Korngold's original recordings than before: "It appears that Leslie Korngold has now donated all of his rare sound recordings to the Motion Picture Academy of Arts and Sciences. The CAMBRIA release is therefore unlikely to happen at all. Whether MPAAS will ever issue a CD of this priceless archive is anyone's guess. Perhaps if enough Korngold admirers here write to the Academy, they may consider it?" http://korngold-society.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26 http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=2&threadID=113802&archive=0
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What happens to the recordings in these cases? Is that like a storage archive? Are they just filed away somewhere and never heard again? Why wouldn't a release be possible? I suppose that the labels now have to deal with Warners plus that Motion Picture Academy if they want to release any original Korngold recordings. In former times it was Warners plus the Korngold estate. Maybe some other people from the USA more in the know about this like Ray Faiola can say something if the Academy is cooperative or not at all.
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I know that the market for Golden Age scores has experienced a plunge in recent years, but, honestly, does no label want to release the Korngold masterpiece, THE ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD, or his sublime THE CONSTANT NYMPH? What do you mean? Both of those have already been released. ROBIN HOOD even has TWO (that I'm aware of). As I said: What has been released in Germany in the 90s on CD were copies of copies of copies and even with wrong mastering. So no official version directly from the originals (which always were in the hands of the Korngold family) is available in the USA on CD.
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Of course, all the time we have discussed only the original recordings and nothing else.
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It's no baiting, but it always irks me a bit when someone posts a request for something that already has a release -- presenting it as if nothing exists; simply because it's a rerecording or doesn't have the complete score or whatever. I think it says something about the current 'atmosphere' -- where everything must be complete and in original format to even warrant a mention. That's all. You may be right about ROBIN HOOD, but certainly not about THE CONSTANT NYMPH which has had no re-recording release and is only available in a second-rate German CD edition from the 90s. Maybe Jim Doherty in his posting could also have added Korngold's OF HUMAN BONDAGE where also the complete original recording would exist, but nobody till now has released it on CD - not even Tsunami in Germany. And it is a score which also hasn't had a new recording (except the few Charles Gerhardt excerpts) with at least about 40-45 minutes.
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One of my last true Holy Grails is for someone to restore and release the remaining surviving Korngold material at Warner Bros. in great sound quality. FSM's twofer of The Sea Wolf and Kings Row showed that it could be done. As noted, the grey-market label releases of Korngold sound terrible, as do the excerpts on the Rhino two disc compilation (I find it unlistenable, frankly, and I listen to a lot of older score recordings). I suspect Thor hasn't even heard The Constant Nymph release, or he wouldn't have made the comment he did. FSM's release sounds wonderful for a 40s film recording. I had thought their releases heralded the restoration of all the other remaining material, but apparently not. And now FSM is no more. Hopefully LLL or Intrada prove me wrong and start working on this material, which has monumental historical importance even if the sales potential probably isn't as good as it would have been 10 years ago. Yavar
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I know the music for GIVE US THIS NIGHT and yes, it is lovely and delightful. Pure Korngold. As there is a lot of sung music without disturbing dialogue, at least all this material could be taken directly from the film. But probably no label will do it because the film is much too obscure and so we will never get the score on an official CD. I also have no hopes for any re-recording of that score because it will be much too expensive and too risky for any CD label.
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