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Oct 18, 2016 - 6:01 PM
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manderley
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The 12" Decca DL-8008 is actually For Whom the Bell Tolls / Golden Earrings.
Considering that Captain From Castile was released 3 years earlier on a 78rpm album (3 or 4 discs, I am not sure), than Samson and Delilah is really the winner as the first "new" orchestral score released on LP! 
While FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS had a release on 78s (Decca A 360), I don't believe that GOLDEN EARRINGS had a 78 release. So doesn't that make GOLDEN EARRINGs the first score to receive a solely LP release?
GOLDEN EARRINGS did have 78rpm album release back in the '40s, on Decca. I have two copies in my collection. (Besides, GOLDEN EARRINGS, is a re-recording, like all, I think, of the Decca movie score albums in the '40s.)
I also wonder where where "SLAUGHTER ON TENTH AVENUE - And Other Ballet Music from Motion Pictures" on MGM 10" disc E-540 fits into our timeline. All soundtrack, all orchestral, conducted by Lennie Hayton and Herbert Stothart with the MGM Studio Orchestra---from soundtracks of THE UNFINISHED DANCE, WORDS AND MUSIC, and THE PIRATE.
Additionally, no one has yet mentioned the early reissue of the old ARA 78rpm album of the '40s, SPELLBOUND, conducted by Rozsa, in a simple green leatherette cover, with gold-stamped lettering on the front, on a 10" LP from REM Records/Hollywood #LP-1. This looks to me like a very, very early film score release at the dawn of the LP era, perhaps 1949 or 1950, before the style of album art was being standardized.
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As a small side-step in this thread, the first stereo soundtrack LP I’m aware of was Alex North’s Cinerama South Seas Adventure in 1958.
My understanding is that this was also the first stereo LP released in any significant pressing quantity to the mainstream home market.
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Oct 19, 2016 - 11:34 PM
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OnyaBirri
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I'd be very surprised if the PICNIC LP was issued in stereo in 1956. It's commonly believed that the first stereo commercial LPs were issued in late 1957 by the Audio Fidelity label. Jerry Osborne's LP guide gives the date of release of the stereo PICNIC as 1959, and the "Goldmine Jazz Album Price Guide" by Dave Thompson gives the date as "196?".
The November 17, 1958 issue of Billboard lists the DL-78320 sterero PICNIC album in a column called "Reviews and Ratings of New Popular Albums," saying "The monaural of this came out over two years ago and was a solid seller and even spawned a top singles hit. Now, in stereo, it has a fine new feeling of presence, just the way it's felt in the movie house."
Yes, exactly. Historically, it has not always been easy to find the release dates of certain titles in stereo, because the release dates usually default to those of the mono LP issues.
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Oct 20, 2016 - 2:39 AM
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manderley
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By 1958, it looks like mono and stereo versions of new LPs were generally being issued contemporaneously. I couldn't find any different release information between the mono and stereo versions of RAINTREE COUNTY or THE YOUNG LIONS.
So far, then, that would make RAINTREE COUNTY the first true stereo release of an orchestral score.
It's my recollection that the stereo version of RAINTREE on one disc (truncated from the longer version) and the mono version of RAINTREE on two discs came out simultaneously. By that time I had a small stereo player, so I bought that single-disc, but I had to have the longer, more complete version and bought that too.
This was, I believe, heavily promoted at the time by RCA, and I recall that one Sunday afternoon Johnny Green appeared on one of the local radio stations in Los Angeles to promote the film's score, and then they played the score, IN STEREO on the radio.
You had to tune your AM radio to one station which played the left channel and your FM radio to another which played the right channel and separate them in the room to get the full effect, which was wonderful and exciting to hear in those days. I think this was in the period just prior to multiplexed stereo on FM.
(This same kind of effect was done---at least in LA---for the Disney release of SLEEPING BEAUTY on film and disc. At that time, the tie-in was on the Disneyland TV show about the making of the film. This time, however, one channel was on the TV audio and the two radio stations supplied the further stereo channels for a total of 3 channel stereo. This also worked quite well if you could get the balances between the channels correct. It DID disrupt the family's evening TV viewing, however, with those radio sets separated throughout the room and the myriad of wires and plugs in outlets!
I remember buying PICNIC when it came out in 1956, but it was only a mono release. So I was very excited to get it in stereo several years later. The KING AND I and CAROUSEL soundtracks were like this as well, first mono, and then several years later, stereo releases.
In some cases I believe they were not able to crowd enough grooves onto the stereo copies, so sometimes a cue or two was truncated or dropped for the stereo release.
With some of these early stereo releases which came out simultaneously with the mono release, the packaging made no mention of stereo, but there was a usually a square label, often in metallic tinfoil stuck to the cover which proclaimed certain copies to be stereo. I believe this was the case with THE YOUNG LIONS on Decca and with several other Decca stereo releases. I would guess that in these very early stereo days there weren't many separate stereo pressings made, so it made sense to just use the generic already-printed mono covers and stick the stereo labels on the front. But it was often difficult to find a stereo copy of some of these releases and you really had to go through the bins of various stores in your searches.
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