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 Posted:   Oct 23, 2016 - 7:29 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Or did they do one and I missed it?

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2016 - 7:46 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I think the real thought is: thank God there was never a live action Jetsons movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2016 - 8:19 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

THE FLINTSTONES feature was successful enough to garner a sequel. Seems it should have happened back then. And what I think were perhaps less popular than STONES and JETSONS, Live Action features of ROCKY AND BULLWINKLE, DUDLEY DORIGHT and GEORGE OF THE JUNGLE all got made.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2016 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

I doubt there's the talent around right now to pull it off successfully, but if it were to have a truly smart and witty script, a futuristic retro spoof of that late '50s/early '60s "Mad Men" American culture that so many today want to return, then it could work.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2016 - 8:45 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Well, for the last ten or fifteen years, everything gets a sequel, whether we asked for it or not, and another sequel on top of the other, whether it's good or not.

I'm not going to trust the same Hollywood that gave us these, to make a Jetsons movie that does blow:

  • The live-action Garfield movies (yes, yes, there is CGI mixed in).
  • The live-action Scooby Doo moives (yes, yes, there is CGI mixed in).
  • The CGI Smurfs films.
  • The Starsky and Hutch film.
  • The A-Team movie.
  • The Bewitched movie.
  • Place holder for the upcoming "CHiPs" movie.
  • The JEM movie.
  • That Green Lantern movie.
  • Look at that Godawful "Trolls" trailer.
  • Since you brought it up, that terrible Flintstones movie, of which the sequels are supposed to be even worse. Hard to imagine!
  • Tons of boring and needless Disney sequels, including that terrible Aladdin sequel, the bofring Bambi sequel, a pintless series of needless Lion King sequels, and so forth and so on. Though technically, I guess this one doesn't count since Disney does as Disney wants, independant of Hollywood.
  • Place holder for the in-development "Knight Rider" film, based on the director and writer workng on it.


    And that's off the top of my head. If I thought more and searched, I could come up with more.

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     Posted:   Oct 23, 2016 - 9:02 PM   
     By:   RoryR   (Member)

    I wish someone would do a Munsters movie, in black and white, and with Hugh Grant as Herman.

     
     Posted:   Oct 23, 2016 - 10:44 PM   
     By:   Solium   (Member)

    There were definitely talks about a live action Jetson movie around the time of The Flintstones.
    The problem with all these properties is the studio's see them as a cash grab based solely off of name recognition. There's no real passion behind the projects.

     
     Posted:   Oct 24, 2016 - 4:26 AM   
     By:   Metryq   (Member)

    Solium wrote: The problem with all these properties is the studio's see them as a cash grab based solely off of name recognition. There's no real passion behind the projects.

    Bullseye. The live action SPEED RACER was brilliantly done, and I believe the producers are serious fans. The movie had many allusions to the original manga and anime, the American cartoon, and even more recent comic books. Examples:

  • The old man announcing at Thunderhead in the opening sequence was Peter Fernandez, the original voice-over artist for the American cartoon.

  • During the stop in the mountains, our heroes see the other racing teams blazing past. Togokahn shouts, "Go! Go! Go!", an allusion to the title of the Japanese series. (MACH GO! GO! GO! was, itself, an alliterative pun.)

  • The story of Rex Racer's disappearance was much more like the original manga.

  • They even remembered that Pops was "Dragon Racer" on his school wrestling team. (That whole bit about the ninjas being 9-to-5 working stiffs cracked me up.)

  • They also managed to insert Cruncher Block and the Mammoth Car into the movie.

    Overall, the story was well-written for newcomers, and did not rely solely on fans of the original to make it work.

    The live action SPACE BATTLESHIP YAMATO (2010) was another translation that was very true to the original, yet improved the whole story with minor changes.

    The producers for both of these movies were passionate about the properties.

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     Posted:   Oct 24, 2016 - 6:14 AM   
     By:   RoryR   (Member)

    And yet SPEED RACER was a bomb. It was on satellite just yesterday and I tried watching it, but it just doesn't have the feeling of the cartoon series.

     
     Posted:   Oct 24, 2016 - 6:42 AM   
     By:   Solium   (Member)

    I agree the live action version of Space Battleship Yamato was excellent.

    Personally as someone who loves quality animation and sees it as an art form, I rather see animated properties come to life on the big screen as animated films. It's a real shame 2D animation is looked down on in America. (Other than the Disney renaissance in the 90's)

     
     Posted:   Oct 24, 2016 - 8:17 AM   
     By:   RoryR   (Member)

    It's a real shame 2D animation is looked down on in America. (Other than the Disney renaissance in the 90's)

    It's not by me. I'd like to see someone do an animated movie again just as it was done by Disney -- in 1941.

     
     Posted:   Oct 24, 2016 - 10:18 AM   
     By:   Metryq   (Member)

    RoryR wrote: And yet SPEED RACER was a bomb.

    Debatable. It was up against IRON MAN. And although I enjoyed IRON MAN, I felt short-changed by that movie. Stark was kidnapped, escaped and built the suit, then suddenly it was the climax. What happened to the middle act?

    Meanwhile I've seen many post-box-office reviews of SPEED RACER lauding it as an excellent family film, "wish I had seen it on the big screen" and that sort of thing. So, "bomb" or "sleeper"? In general, I find myself at odds with popular opinion. I dislike what is popular with others, and the majority tend to downcheck movies that I like.

    I have the original SPEED RACER series on DVD (American version), and it ain't what it was to a seven-year-old kid who watched it.

    Solium wrote: Personally as someone who loves quality animation and sees it as an art form, I rather see animated properties come to life on the big screen as animated films.

    Agreed. YAMATO was an animated cinema release. Despite being a fan of the series—and the series had some dreadful animation work—I have not chased down any of the features. I have read that one of the cinema features beat STAR WARS at the box office. (And of course the American edit differs from the original Japanese version.)

    There are studios still producing 2D cel work, whether on actual cels, or digital variant. Pixar's initial successes led some to believe that 3D model work was the key, but that gold rush has cooled. Today 2D cel-type animation and stop motion still exist, although both may feature computer assist—at least so far as compositing goes.

    I assume you know of the 2012 "reboot" of the anime as SPACE BATTLESHIP YAMATO 2199. That makes use of 3D cel-shaded segments and a massive re-write to the story, although I believe the score is largely from the original.

     
     Posted:   Oct 24, 2016 - 10:34 AM   
     By:   LeHah   (Member)

    Meanwhile I've seen many post-box-office reviews of SPEED RACER lauding it as an excellent family film, "wish I had seen it on the big screen" and that sort of thing. So, "bomb" or "sleeper"? In general, I find myself at odds with popular opinion. I dislike what is popular with others, and the majority tend to downcheck movies that I like.

    As someone who adores Speed Racer more than should be considered sane by a person over the age of ten, the movie was a massive box office bomb. It disappeared from theaters very quickly and was derided by pretty much every critic (professional or otherwise) that came across it. It also didn't even break even in theaters, so, yes the film actually was a loss and thus a bomb.

     
     Posted:   Oct 24, 2016 - 10:39 AM   
     By:   Solium   (Member)

    @ RoryR- I always felt the superhero movies would've translated better as 2D animated films. For one thing they could stay faithful to their drawn style and look. I always wanted to see a new version of Superman in the Fleischer style. Those shorts were really cool. (I know the Animated Batman series emulated that look)

    @ Metryq- I'm aware of Space Battleship Yamato 2199, and seen a few clips. I guess I’m to old school, I don’t care for the 3D rendering of the ships. I much prefer the old process where they rotoscoped models.

    I’m fine with 2D "digital" animation. As long as the actual animation is done with hand, pencil and paper. (I guess it can be done with a pen and tablet now) The rest can be rendered on the computer.

    I didn’t care for the story, but Disney’s last 2D animated feature, “The Princess and the Frog” was a visual delight. Breathtakingly beautiful. What people miss is the richness of 2D animation.

    Some studios are getting the hand drawn feel into 3D animation. Dreamworks developed new technology that let them manipulate wireframe animation by hand (with the aide of a pen) This lead to more fluid and less mechanical looking animation. The facial work on "How To Train Your Dragon 2" was quite impressive.

     
     Posted:   Oct 24, 2016 - 10:45 AM   
     By:   RoryR   (Member)

    RoryR wrote: And yet SPEED RACER was a bomb.

    Debatable. It was up against IRON MAN. And although I enjoyed IRON MAN, I felt short-changed by that movie. Stark was kidnapped, escaped and built the suit, then suddenly it was the climax. What happened to the middle act?

    Meanwhile I've seen many post-box-office reviews of SPEED RACER lauding it as an excellent family film, "wish I had seen it on the big screen" and that sort of thing. So, "bomb" or "sleeper"? In general, I find myself at odds with popular opinion. I dislike what is popular with others, and the majority tend to downcheck movies that I like.

    I have the original SPEED RACER series on DVD (American version), and it ain't what it was to a seven-year-old kid who watched it.


    I have it too, but I wasn't that into back when I was seven -- in 1966, by the way. Watching it now is just nostalgia, but I appreciate more as somekind of crazy comment on post-WWII "Americanized" Japan pop culture -- ad that was the element most missing from the movie adaptation and mostly made the film pointless.

     
     Posted:   Oct 24, 2016 - 11:25 AM   
     By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

    Roger Ramjet.

    He's the man.

     
     Posted:   Oct 24, 2016 - 2:47 PM   
     By:   Metryq   (Member)

    RoryR wrote: but I appreciate more as somekind of crazy comment on post-WWII "Americanized" Japan pop culture

    Interesting. Because Mifune Go (Speed Racer) was based on Elvis in VIVA LAS VEGAS, and the tricked-out Mach 5 was inspired by James Bond's car in GOLDFINGER. So, the English dubbed SPEED RACER was Western pop culture bounced off Japan and returned.

    Where the translators came up with "Rex" for the name of Speed's brother, I do not know. But it dovetailed beautifully with the Thunderhead scene at the opening of the live action movie. We see Speed racing neck and neck with the ghost of his brother. At the last moment, Speed releases the accelerator, allowing his brother's track record to stand. "Long live the king."

    RoryR wrote: that was the element most missing from the movie adaptation and mostly made the film pointless.

    Long live the emperor.

     
     Posted:   Oct 28, 2016 - 4:03 AM   
     By:   Metryq   (Member)

    I was just running an old JETSONS episode and noted a retro allusion. Kids today would not understand.

    It is raining outside as the episode begins, and Elroy is told he must wear a raincoat to school. Mrs. Jetson holds a plunger-like thing over Elroy's face, and a sprayer mists a cloud around him. Elroy is now encased (except for his face) in a clear, plastic cover. "Don't forget to peel it off when you get to school," she reminds Elroy.

    "Aw, mom," he gripes, "I feel like a banana."

    (On second thought, today's kids might assume it refers to the condom-over-a-banana sex training they got in kindergarten.)

     
     Posted:   Oct 28, 2016 - 6:18 PM   
     By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

    I was just running an old JETSONS episode and noted a retro allusion. Kids today would not understand.

    It is raining outside as the episode begins, and Elroy is told he must wear a raincoat to school. Mrs. Jetson holds a plunger-like thing over Elroy's face, and a sprayer mists a cloud around him. Elroy is now encased (except for his face) in a clear, plastic cover. "Don't forget to peel it off when you get to school," she reminds Elroy.

    "Aw, mom," he gripes, "I feel like a banana."

    (On second thought, today's kids might assume it refers to the condom-over-a-banana sex training they got in kindergarten.)


    You lost me here.

    How is this a retro allusion? Did kids in the 60's (when Jetsons first aired) not eat bananas? Or wear raincoats?

     
     Posted:   Oct 28, 2016 - 6:20 PM   
     By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

    Or did they do one and I missed it?

    Back in the 80's I remember talk of one meant to star Chevy Chase and Goldie Hawn.

    Which would have had possibilities, actually.

     
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