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 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 3:38 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

....but perhaps enjoyed a few of their works.

Just curious. Not intended for negativity.

Some composers who rarely floated my musical taste boat.

Maurice Jarre - However I do enjoy his Themes from Doctor Zhivago, Lawrence of Arabia, his score for JESUS OF NAZARETH and the Barn Building cue from WITNESS, but that's about it.

Hans Zimmer - Loved his BACKDRAFT and THE DaVINCI CODE and that's about it.

Lalo Schifrin - Liked his THE COMPETITION Score, AIRPORT '79 and MISSION IMPOSSIBLE Theme and that's about it.

Dimitri Tiomkin - Can't think of anything I like by him at all.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 4:29 AM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

Delarue - I would like to hear the entire score for 'La Revolution Francaise' (?) but from what I've sampled the rest of his music just doesn't work for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 4:49 AM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

Have always thought Michael Giacchino to be a huge talent, but apart from a dozen cues or so have found him too generic. Having said that I am loving Rogue One...my favourite if his so far.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 5:30 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Get thee behind me, Zooba!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 5:43 AM   
 By:   Kim Peterson   (Member)

I am with you Zooba. Hans Zimmer, Lalo Schifrin and Dimitri Tiomkin are ones I have never been able to listen to, but I will add some more. Howard Shore, Trent Reznor, Atticus Ross, Michel Colombier, Marvin Hamlisch, Junkie XL, Tomandandy, Edwin Wendler, Francis Lai and Gabriel Yared. Many of these composers I have tried to listen to with all of the praises here and other sites, but their scores just do not stick in my head as scores I would listen to outside of the movie.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 5:56 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Leonard Rosenman. I know he has his devotees, and there are scores he did that I'm fine with (and Beneath the Planet of the Apes is not one), but he was the composer more than any other that when I saw his name in the credits I'd think, "Why couldn't they have gotten somebody else?"

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 7:03 AM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

Rosza. From what I've heard he seems to use very little bass and low-end in general, his music feels feverish and imbalanced to me. I've yet to find a score of his I enjoy, although I'm sure there is one out there.

Likewise with Elmer Bernstein. I love his Carpetbaggers theme, and I like a lot the moody passages of Heavy Metal and The Black Cauldron, but the heroics and upbeat stuff are too in your face for my liking.

I really don't like Dave Grusin's choice of instruments, if that's the right way to put it, his sound is way too generic, like a backing band, with not enough mood-based inflection.

Lalo Schifrin, although I'm less clear on why exactly.

And lastly, as if it wasn't already a long enough list of well-loved composers, I find John Barry's writing... I guess I would describe it as groping, his dramatic themes extend, and are complex, to the point where they should deliver something, and in my case they call out alright, but they just don't touch a nerve.

Of course this is all in terms of stand alone listening, and within the movies themselves the work rarely gets under my skin.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 7:12 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Maurice Jarre's music has not really clicked with me. I enjoy his electronic score to Witness and After Dark, My Sweet quite a bit, but sad to say, scores like Lawrence Of Arabia just don't do anything for me.

I'm not saying he's a poor composer, obviously not, since his music was very popular and acclaimed, but I've never warmed up to it.

Same with Alex North. Complex music but ice cold.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 7:15 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

For me the first to spring to mind is Danny Elfman: generally his work does nothing for me, but I love MIDNIGHT RUN. The second would be Howard Shore, most of whose music I find too dark and gloomy, although I think his score to THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS is terrific. (Also VIDEODROME, which I've never understood.)

I've never taken to Brian Tyler very much, but I've enjoyed some of his music for the FAST AND FURIOUS series.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 7:32 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)


Same with Alex North. Complex music but ice cold.


I feel the same way...I admire his music for its complexity and craft, but I own maybe a half-dozen of his scores on CD, and rarely listen to them.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Rosza. From what I've heard he seems to use very little bass and low-end in general, his music feels feverish and imbalanced to me. I've yet to find a score of his I enjoy, although I'm sure there is one out there.


Bass and low end? He was a master who utilised every section of the orchestra and his Germanic and Hungarian discipline would never let him omit any contrasting texture in counterpoint for long. Plus his great penchant for basses and cellos. ????????!!!!



Likewise with Elmer Bernstein. I love his Carpetbaggers theme, and I like a lot the moody passages of Heavy Metal and The Black Cauldron, but the heroics and upbeat stuff are too in your face for my liking.


'To Kill a Mockingbird'??????!!!!!!




I really don't like Dave Grusin's choice of instruments, if that's the right way to put it, his sound is way too generic, like a backing band, with not enough mood-based inflection.


It's what suited the films and era style.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 8:23 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)



Same with Alex North. Complex music but ice cold.



'The Agony and the Ecstasy', 'Rose Tattoo', 'Cleopatra', 'Shoes of the Fisherman', 'Misfits'??????!!!!!

The most compassionate colourist on the planet? Whatever 'Spartacus' is or is not, it's not cold, it's on fire!

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

Rosza. From what I've heard he seems to use very little bass and low-end in general, his music feels feverish and imbalanced to me. I've yet to find a score of his I enjoy, although I'm sure there is one out there.

Bass and low end? He was a master who utilised every section of the orchestra and his Germanic and Hungarian discipline would never let him omit any contrasting texture in counterpoint for long. Plus his great penchant for basses and cellos. ????????!!!!



isn't it all pitched quite high though? maybe I didn't describe it right at all, i often struggle to verbalize music, maybe tempo has something to do with it. anyway the overall feel i'm left with is that it's high in degrees, with little cooling off. it's always pushing up. and i don't doubt that he's a master, but the effect is the effect, i'm just describing where his music leaves me.



Likewise with Elmer Bernstein. I love his Carpetbaggers theme, and I like a lot the moody passages of Heavy Metal and The Black Cauldron, but the heroics and upbeat stuff are too in your face for my liking.

'To Kill a Mockingbird'??????!!!!!!



years since i've seen it, i did try one or two samples on intrada's last issue and it did not grab. not sure why you've singled this one out. you think it's something everyone should like? or me in particular?



I really don't like Dave Grusin's choice of instruments, if that's the right way to put it, his sound is way too generic, like a backing band, with not enough mood-based inflection.

It's what suited the films and era style.



sure, like i said in my post, in the movies themselves i find none of the above off-putting, but I would probably prefer what someone like Fielding could have done with The Friends of Eddie Coyle.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)



Same with Alex North. Complex music but ice cold.



'The Agony and the Ecstasy', 'Rose Tattoo', 'Cleopatra', 'Shoes of the Fisherman', 'Misfits'??????!!!!!

The most compassionate colourist on the planet? Whatever 'Spartacus' is or is not, it's not cold, it's on fire!


Let people get it out, it's interesting. I want hear from those for which Goldsmith does nothing.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   Aidabaida   (Member)

Steve Jablonsky: Except for Steamboy.

Alan Silvestri: He's great at writing main themes. But the rest of his scores are the definition of generic. I never listen to anything but the primary titles to Captain America or The Avengers or Back to the Future.

Randy Newman: Can't think of a thing he's written that I would listen to twice.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

....but perhaps enjoyed a few of their works.

Just curious. Not intended for negativity.


That's kind of inevitable, given the subject matter.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

....but perhaps enjoyed a few of their works.
Just curious. Not intended for negativity.


That's kind of inevitable, given the subject matter.



Fair critique isn't the same ting as 'negativity'.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

Howard Shore is the first name I thought of when it comes to composers whose music I never really cared for.

Second name I can think of is Georges Delerue.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 10:57 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Several. I've never cared for fan favourites Alexandre Desplat or Michael Giacchino. I'd be hardpressed to find even a handful of scores of either that I've really enjoyed. To me, they come off as "The Emperor's New Clothes".

There was a time I didn't care much for John Barry or Bernard Herrmann, although I've come to appreciate them more over the years -- at least certain FACETS of their sound.

I always hated Howard Shore in 'drone' mode, but I've discovered more of him that I like in the wake of LOTR. He's growing on me.

Max Steiner drives me insane sometimes.

For me, it's usually more an issue of disliking certain PARTS of a composer's output, like the suspense/dissonant writing of Morricone or Delerue, although I absolutely adore them in melodic/melancholic mode, for example.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2017 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Alex North all the way. I don't get it. I just don't. Get. IT!

As for who is most "overblown", especially around here, hands down Jerry Goldsmith. At his best he wrote amazing music (his Agony and the Ecstasy prologue music is a masterwork). But the synth-addled stuff he wrote especially from the mid-80's onward just doesn't work for me. It's like he was trying to make sure his music would age horribly on purpose. That's why I love later scores like The Edge, where he dropped that nonsense and just went straight-symphonic.

 
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