I just saw the last Star Track Movie (thank you, Mr. Phelps for the new name), and sadly it didn't pass #2 or 3.
If the two women talk about a man in a context outside of a romantic relationship, such as talking about their lawyer if he happens to be male, does that eliminate it?
I'm currently re-watching The Garden of Eden, which concerns a menage a trois, BUT , the two women DO discuss something other than the man...hairstyles!
And thank you DinB, for the Catherine Deneuve "Star War" tip; it further ratifies my hatred for that franchise (post-1980).
I just saw the last Star Track Movie (thank you, Mr. Phelps for the new name), and sadly it didn't pass #2 or 3.
If the two women talk about a man in a context outside of a romantic relationship, such as talking about their lawyer if he happens to be male, does that eliminate it?
They're still talking about a man, so it still does not pass.
I'm currently re-watching The Garden of Eden, which concerns a menage a trois, BUT , the two women DO discuss something other than the man...hairstyles!
And thank you DinB, for the Catherine Deneuve "Star War" tip; it further ratifies my hatred for that franchise (post-1980).
While I'm stymied to recall mentioning CD in relation to The Franchise, but I'll still accept the thanks, JP!
(And thank you for the better name for The Franchise!)
While I like the spirit of it - where there should be way more to female characters than just talking about men - The Bechdel Test is also complete garbage.
For instance, Disney's Up doesn't pass this test but its still a great movie.
Trainspotting violates this outright - it has two female characters, but they just talk about their relationships in one scene - but its still a great movie.
A third wave feminist litmus test that is so rigid as to be inflexible is intellectually and artistically worthless to society, especially if it lacks humor. I mean, even the goddamned dadaists poked fun at their own rules.
What's the significance of the test? What's it meant to prove or disprove?
A slight aberrance to cliched writing, perhaps?
THE WOMEN (2008) 1) Yes. 2) Yes. 3) Yes, although they MOSTLY talk about a man.
So, I guess it passes.
Yyyyyyyyyyyyynah. There needs to be a percentage value given to rule #3, and then a statistician has to count the words of dialogue to determine said percentage in The Women (original and remake). As well as a new rule:
4) Does anyone talk about Bechdel in a movie? If so, #1-3 are overruled. All hail The Bechdel.
What's the significance of the test? What's it meant to prove or disprove?
It doesn't prove or disprove anything. It's a criterion for evaluating movies. It's a truism that men dominate the screen time, the lead roles, and get the vast majority of the spoken words in films. It's been further suggested that in most movies that do have speaking roles for women, well, if there's more than one woman, and they get to speak to each other, it's about the man. The Bechdel test provides a criterion for people who want to see movies that aren't all about men, where women get to have actual roles, get to have relationships with other women that aren't centered around men, or family.
What's the significance of the test? What's it meant to prove or disprove?
It doesn't prove or disprove anything. It's a criterion for evaluating movies. It's a truism that men dominate the screen time, the lead roles, and get the vast majority of the spoken words in films. It's been further suggested that in most movies that do have speaking roles for women, well, if there's more than one woman, and they get to speak to each other, it's about the man. The Bechdel test provides a criterion for people who want to see movies that aren't all about men, where women get to have actual roles, get to have relationships with other women that aren't centered around men, or family.
