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Feb 10, 2017 - 5:47 AM
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Rameau
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Yup, a few years ago at Christmas I was at my sisters & we were watching a DVD (must have been about eight of us there), & I said I can't watch this, the picture's all wrong, & everyone said, what's he on about , leave it alone it's fine, anyway, it was all wrong, she had the DVD player set up for a 4x3 TV (that's how it came, they never alter anything). My sister & brother-in-law are very intelligent & successful (they have the big house), but like most people they don't care or notice. They've just bought a big & very expensive TV, but it's set up with far too much contrast (that's how it came), the blacks are all crushed & whites clipped, but they won't let me adjust it, "don't touch it, it's fine!", they won't buy a Blu-ray player, "the TV upgrades DVDs to HD so we don't need one", half the time they look at programs in SD when they could look at them in HD!! As I say, they're very intelligent people (a lot more successful that me), my brother-in-law speaks about eight languages, but they're like the majority of people, this stuff just isn't important to them...& they can go to see a film & quite happily miss the start! It's only us small band of brothers that worry about all this stuff, & who visit sites like HTF & Blu-ray.
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I do no longer know such people. :-) No, seriously, I ALWAYS wanted my movies with the correct aspect ratio, even if that means big black bars on 4:3 TVs. And I so welcomed BluRays, the first medium that offers both first rate sound and high-res opticals. (Though I admit DVD was a HUGE improvement over VHS.)
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3D TV's are on the way out - have a feeling that if mine ever dies I'll be left searching for a second hand one. Are they?
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Feb 10, 2017 - 7:10 AM
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RoryR
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This is kind of a funny thread because this is an old story for me, going back decades to the days when you got your TV through an antenna and people would tolerate something that if you mention to some younger people today they look at you and are utterly clueless and puzzled. I'm talking about when people used to be fine with watching "snowy pictures" on their TVs. Forget distortion and bad color, what about how much people used to tolerate watching TV through a haze of snow? And if you dared tried to mess with their rabbit ears, which I used to do when I was a kid, they'd freak out. And today so many don't even know what you're talking about. Rabbit Ears?!!! Snow in a picture? They think real snow. Adjusting vertical hold to fix a constantly rolling image? WTF? A CRT? What's that? So, it's amusing to me reading the above comments about stretched images and incorrect aspect ratios, because I feel at least we've advanced to that! Of course, it does bother me when I go to visit my parents, both now in their late seventies, and both of whom grew up without TV, now watching stretched images on their 16X9 flat screen HD TVs and worse than that, watching in standard definition when they could be watching in HD! But what are you going to do? What I can't believe, because I no longer can tolerate it, is watching a movie or TV show with commercials. I WILL NOT watch a movie with commercial interruptions, and I HAVE to DVR every TV show I watch that's on commercial TV so I can scan through the breaks because I'm literally annoyed as hell by commercials now. They are an insult to my intelligence and they're repeated so many times! And yet it's still around because most people just sit through this stuff like the living dead. And I haven't even gotten into the weeds of correct color temperature, hue and color level, brightness and contrast, and sharpness settings, 99% of which people are clueless about. Or my latest favorite, "What the hell is HDMI?"
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3D TV's are on the way out - have a feeling that if mine ever dies I'll be left searching for a second hand one. Are they? Oh, I see that they may well be. Pity. I enjoy the occasional 3D movie on my 3D LG TV.
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Of course, it does bother me when I go to visit my parents, both now in their late seventies, and both of whom grew up without TV, now watching stretched images on their 16X9 flat screen HD TVs and worse than that, watching in standard definition when they could be watching in HD! But what are you going to do? Fine them. 20$ for first time offenses, 30$ for repeat offenses. They'll learn eventually.
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Feb 10, 2017 - 7:29 AM
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mastadge
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Like, I know that objectively this isn't the most important thing in the world. If someone held a gun to a friend's head and said "OAR or their life" I'd choose my friend. But a lot of people put a lot of effort into a production. I guess I just don't view it as disposable or background noise -- when I'm watching a film (or a TV program), I'm watching it. Oh well. I remember I used to read studies about how brain-stultifying watching TV was (as compared to reading or other sedentary pursuits) because you switch your brain off. But to me, watching a TV show is much like reading a novel -- I engage with it, I try different ways of reading it, I look for context and subtext and so forth. Sometimes it's rewarding, sometimes not, but then we can't pretend that the majority of what readers read is high art, either. And yet it's still around because most people just sit through this stuff like the living dead. Do they? Is it more common to sit through commercials or to flip/click around when commercials come on? I used to have friends that would do that, and end up watching a different program or returning late to what they were originally watching. I wonder . . . if these people read books, and don't have a bookmark, do they pick up where they left off or just somewhere plus or minus a few pages or chapters of where they left off? To the way I approach the world and consumption of art and entertainment, it's just almost unfathomable to me to do things this way. But I guess we're in the minority.
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Feb 10, 2017 - 7:35 AM
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RoryR
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Of course, it does bother me when I go to visit my parents, both now in their late seventies, and both of whom grew up without TV, now watching stretched images on their 16X9 flat screen HD TVs and worse than that, watching in standard definition when they could be watching in HD! But what are you going to do? Fine them. 20$ for first time offenses, 30$ for repeat offenses. They'll learn eventually. No, they won't. Believe me, it's hopeless. And guess who is the first person they call when they have a problem with their TVs or the satellite remote or something? I'll give you one guess. Oh, how I love being asked to fix video problems over the phone! You think I'm grumpy here, you should hear me explain again and again to my parents things like, "The red tipped cable goes into the red colored input, and the yellow into the yellow, the green into the green -- AND YOU CAN SKIP ALL OF THAT IF YOU'D JUST USE THE ONE HDMI CABLE AS I'VE SHOWN YOU A DOZEN TIMES!!!! And then there's surround sound -- they want nothing to do with it, "It'll hurt my ears," but when they visit me they always comment on how cool it is to hear the cars and stuff pass by as if they were live in the room. My father sits at home in front of a 50" TV with an old Pioneer Elite A/V receiver I gave him and won't hook it up. I call it now the $900 dust and cat hair collector.
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Feb 10, 2017 - 7:49 AM
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RoryR
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And yet it's still around because most people just sit through this stuff like the living dead. Do they? Is it more common to sit through commercials or to flip/click around when commercials come on? I used to have friends that would do that, and end up watching a different program or returning late to what they were originally watching. I wonder . . . if these people read books... People reading books? Tell that to your local Barnes & Noble -- before it closes. My parents still read books, but then, as I said, they grew up without TV, well at least not until they were well into their teens. I still read books, but I'm ashamed to stay not that many. Anyway, my younger sister and her boyfriend are those that will change channels during commercials and then forget to return to what they were watching, but what amazes me is that if they do remember, they're not bothered by what they may have missed, they just keep watching without comment.
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Hear, hear! I say, let us calibrate all those TVs, let us take it upon ourselves to calibrate and correctly set up the TVs of our parents, grandparents, elderly neighbors, elderly neighbors' friends and relatives, let us make disciples out of them so they may go to and calibrate the TVs of THEIR parents, grandparents, elderly neighbors and so on... for a better world, for a better tomorrow!
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