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 Posted:   Feb 16, 2017 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

for 30/40 years


So, TG ... you continue to like the same types of music and same composers for over 40 years and have had no significant growth in the areas of music's harmonic vocabularies?

Will there ever be a day in your future when you cease to like concert music by Shostakovitch or film music by John Barry by reason of conversion to dodecaphony or spectral techniques?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2017 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Regarding "urgency" - could this not be reduced simply to a conductor's interpretation(s) on how the musicians are to peform on their musical instruments?

[a composer writes "con urgenza" within a particular passage in a manuscript and a conductor communicates this feature to a receptive performing ensemble and - viola - 'urgent' music ensues, which will enchant TallGuy. smile ]

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2017 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

for 30/40 years


So, TG ... you continue to like the same types of music and same composers for over 40 years and have had no significant growth in the areas of music's harmonic vocabularies?

Will there ever be a day in your future when you cease to like concert music by Shostakovitch or film music by John Barry by reason of conversion to dodecaphony or spectral techniques?



I'd almost forgotten your fondness for inferring things in my posts that don't exist smile

And for the sake of accuracy 30/40 years isn't over 40 years...

With luck I'll get more chance later tonight to listen to people's examples and maybe even give a thoughtful if very likely superficial response!

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2017 - 2:53 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

If I may respond unbearably fussily to MusicMad: Zimmer's Chevaliers de Sangreal is a modern, minimalist-influenced passacaglia rather than a fugue. Some definitions may be helpful here.

...

And by the way - Zimmer's Chevaliers de Sangreal was the piece that once and for all convinced me that he is a film composer of the first rank.


Many thanks for the information ... though I'm afraid much of the detail is lost on me. I can't say I agree with your conclusion albeit I do have a small collection of his scores.

Mitch

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2017 - 4:03 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

Over the last several months I’ve been listening to much more concert hall music than film music. Regular readers will know that I’ve gone gaga over Polish/Soviet composer Mieczyslaw Weinberg and it’s so notable that I’ve taken on board the joys of a new composer after being devoted to the same ones for 30/40 years that I’ve pondered why it should be.
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Shostakovich’s music is rarely far away from a climax (!), particularly the symphonies, which in the finale of the 5th, ...
TG


I shall listen out for this when we attend the symphony next month (16 Mar) smile

Also, off-topic: if you're interested in hearing MW played live, the UK premiere of his Suite No.4 The Golden Key is scheduled for Thu 06 Apr 14:15hrs (and Sat 06 Apr 19:00hrs). - https://www.thsh.co.uk/event/rachmaninovs-third

Okay, not one of MW's symphonies, or violin concerto but it's a start. I am tempted but as we're already attending Wed 05 Apr (Beethoven's Emperor Concerto) and 13 Apr (Mahler's 5th) I can't justify the expense ...

Mitch

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2017 - 6:17 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


Also, off-topic: if you're interested in hearing MW played live, the UK premiere of his Suite No.4 The Golden Key is scheduled for Thu 06 Apr 14:15hrs (and Sat 06 Apr 19:00hrs). - https://www.thsh.co.uk/event/rachmaninovs-third

Okay, not one of MW's symphonies, or violin concerto but it's a start. I am tempted but as we're already attending Wed 05 Apr (Beethoven's Emperor Concerto) and 13 Apr (Mahler's 5th) I can't justify the expense ...

Mitch



I'm tempted as well, and if it were one of the symphonies, I wouldn't hesitate. I have one of the two (as far as I know) recorded versions of the Golden Key Suite, and it's very accessible and gorgeous, but on its own isn't enough of a draw to troll all the way to Brum. The other two works would be great to see, of course...

Hmm.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2017 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

THE GOLDEN KEY is, in fact, the only relationship I have to this composer. And it's a fairly recent acquaintance. About a year ago, I was trying out for radio host at the classical channel of NRK (our BBC), and we had to make a show out of the selections we got. One of them was this piece. So I had to research the composer and music a bit to have something meaningful to say. I obviously didn't succeed, because I didn't get the job.

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2017 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

And by the way - Zimmer's Chevaliers de Sangreal was the piece that once and for all convinced me that he is a film composer of the first rank.

.....I can't say I agree with your conclusion albeit I do have a small collection of his scores.

Mitch


Maybe I just say that because my standards of what constitutes a composer of the first rank has declined in recent years. I probably mean "of the current crop, not counting the extraordinary veterans". But not meaning to damn with faint praise either. My main point is it was this piece that got me paying more attention to Zimmer.

 
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