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Feb 22, 2017 - 12:15 PM
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SchiffyM
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Lots of movies didn't have soundtrack albums at that time, including big hits. The song was released as a single (and was a hit, too), but that sufficed. Other top ten hits of the '70s that didn't have soundtrack releases include "Tora! Tora! Tora!," "The French Connection," "Dirty Harry," "Blazing Saddles," "All The President’s Men," "Silver Streak," and Williams' own "Midway." (They all have albums now!)
And as Thor says, "The Poseidon Adventure" is not a score that's especially tuneful, or even terribly adaptable to a pop interpretation. I have to imagine they didn't think there would be much of a market for it, and they were likely correct.
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Feb 22, 2017 - 12:32 PM
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And as Thor says, "The Poseidon Adventure" is not a score that's especially tuneful, or even terribly adaptable to a pop interpretation. I have to imagine they didn't think there would be much of a market for it, and they were likely correct.
Indeed. I think it's the same thing with THE SUGARLAND EXPRESS. Also a rather weak and directionless score outside the wonderful main theme. I think that's why he never released a soundtrack then, and refuses to do so now.
Other 70s scores by Williams (beyond those two) that didn't get a soundtrack at the time include STORIA DI UNA DONNA (still unreleased), IMAGES, PETE'N'TILLIE (still unreleased), THE LONG GOODBYE, THE MAN WHO LOVED CAT DANCING, THE PAPER CHASE, CONRACK, FAMILY PLOT, MIDWAY and BLACK SUNDAY.
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Feb 22, 2017 - 2:29 PM
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governor
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Lots of movies didn't have soundtrack albums at that time, including big hits. The song was released as a single (and was a hit, too), but that sufficed. Other top ten hits of the '70s that didn't have soundtrack releases include "Tora! Tora! Tora!," "The French Connection," "Dirty Harry," "Blazing Saddles," "All The President’s Men," "Silver Streak," and Williams' own "Midway." (They all have albums now!)
And as Thor says, "The Poseidon Adventure" is not a score that's especially tuneful, or even terribly adaptable to a pop interpretation. I have to imagine they didn't think there would be much of a market for it, and they were likely correct.
and so did John Williams....
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Feb 22, 2017 - 3:21 PM
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Graham Watt
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I'm kind of between Thor and OnyaBirri (sp?) on this. On the one hand there wasn't really an awful lot of meaty thematic material to expand on even for a 30-min LP release, but at the same time I'm sure that Williams could have re-recorded some material and organised it to make it more listener friendly. Weren't there more source tracks besides "To Love" and "The Morning After" (the latter admittedly not even by JW)? What was really the big difference between concocting a soundtrack for THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE and (the real) one for EARTHQUAKE? Both are fairly sparse and/ or noodly in their undesrcores, but with great themes. Both have source music (some of EARTHQUAKE's sounds even "semi-diegetic"). I'm sure that, legal issues aside, there "could" have been a release of the score. The film made a lot of money, so I think that something stopped it from being done. Maybe back then ('74) somebody couldn't be arsed, but I'm sure it would have sold well on the title alone, regardless of the fidelity of the music to the film (or perhaps because of it).
Going a bit off on a tangent I know, but thinking about the actual musical content of the Williams score, and its not being really easy to expand on and adapt to album for Mr J. Public .... Wasn't John Cacavas' AIRPORT '75 score sort of in a similar boat (ha!) as regards a strong Main Theme and a lot of meandering in between? Did things change overnight between New Year 1974 and Jan 1 1975? (And I don't mean the Poseidon party, which probably took place on Jan 31, 1973 or something.)
ADDED A DAY LATER - Sorry, ignore the dates I mentioned above. I got confused.
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Feb 22, 2017 - 4:49 PM
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SchiffyM
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Going a bit off on a tangent I know, but thinking about the actual musical content of the Williams score, and its not being really easy to expand on and adapt to album for Mr J. Public .... Wasn't John Cacavas' AIRPORT '75 score sort of in a similar boat (ha!) as regards a strong Main Theme and a lot of meandering in between? Did things change overnight between New Year 1974 and Jan 1 1975? (And I don't mean the Poseidon party, which probably took place on Jan 31, 1973 or something.)
I'm not sure what you mean by those dates ("The Poseidon Adventure" came out in December of 1972, "Airport 1975" was an October 1974 release), and I've never heard the Cacavas score. Even so, the films were made by different studios, produced by different entities, and obviously the scores were done by different composers, who may well have had different desires to push for score releases. There is no one equation that dictates why something happens and another doesn't, and there never has been. We're guilty a lot here of thinking "If A, why not B?" But often A is an apple, and B is an orange, and as we all know, those things should not be compared.
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