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 Posted:   Feb 24, 2017 - 7:26 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

Oddly for Twilight Time, Peyton Place has been announced for future release but with no isolated music track. What gives?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2017 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

Initially, the score was to be isolated with some effects. Not sure if this has changed.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2017 - 11:53 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

One of Waxman's finest scores. Certainly deserving of an isolated score track if the elements exist.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2017 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Given Twilight Time's extensive track record, I'm sure they would have if they could have.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2017 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Sometimes pre-announcements aren't always accurate.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2017 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

Was just informed by twilight time that the peyton place music stems are lost. Therefore no isolated music track.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Sometimes pre-announcements aren't always accurate.


There is a Mike Matessino credit for isolated score, but no such thing is apparent.

There IS a special feature of locations used in the film and it is wall-to-wall score in excellent audio. Sadly, it's not the whole score.

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 1:23 AM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

Sometimes pre-announcements aren't always accurate.


There is a Mike Matessino credit for isolated score, but no such thing is apparent.

There IS a special feature of locations used in the film and it is wall-to-wall score in excellent audio. Sadly, it's not the whole score.


hm... Kritzerland to the help? smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 1:48 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Sometimes pre-announcements aren't always accurate.


There is a Mike Matessino credit for isolated score, but no such thing is apparent.

There IS a special feature of locations used in the film and it is wall-to-wall score in excellent audio. Sadly, it's not the whole score.


hm... Kritzerland to the help? smile


Not us, sadly.

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 5:04 AM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

The credit probably should have been deleted, but basically it stays there for all releases.

I checked out the M&E track and discovered that it was not a true one, but what is called "filled." This means that it was created later on by the studio for foreign track use; it was not done at the time. Generally what happens when they do that is that dialogue-free sections of music are taken from the English mix and then tracked and looped as is possible. Sometimes library music unrelated to the picture is inserted. It's also not uncommon for music to be dropped altogether in some sections. Many sound effects are also completely replaced.

So in the absence of a real M&E and ANY usable scoring elements, there was simply nothing worthwhile to present. The location featurette uses the Varese rerecording and says so in the credits.

Mike M.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

Have heard thee is problem with the element for Waxman films,ncluding Peyton Place and Adventures of a Young Man.
has anyone checked the original tapes RCA got from Fox, to see if the complete score was sent, a la Summer and Smoke.

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Hey, Joe, remember that ancient article you wrote for "The Perfect Vision" over twenty-five years ago where you went through what was stereo and not stereo and what was lost or missing from the vaults at Fox? I wish I'd saved it. Did you mention anything about PEYTON PLACE in it?

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 10:26 AM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

I indeed checked with Sony Music and all they have in their vaults on both of those Waxman scores are the finished re-recorded album tapes. Fox does have an M&E track on Hemingway that I think is original, but the quality is very poor.

Mike M.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 4:56 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Looks like the best that we will do on the original tracks for either score is a remastering of the LP masters. The RCA Spain CD for PEYTON PLACE dates from 1999, and the Label X CD of HEMINGWAY'S ADVENTURES OF A YOUNG MAN goes back to 1985.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2017 - 7:26 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

I was at least hoping for the RCA albums, before that reverb had been added.

 
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