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 Posted:   Mar 17, 2017 - 5:26 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Listening to his "FLIGHT" music from THE HORSEMEN COMETH and this thought just came to me.

Why wasn't Horner's wife and children there in Vienna Celebrating his wonderful career, basically his life's work, with him? I certainly would want to have my family there sharing this great time with me. I know his assistant was there sitting at his side. I think his wife was there with him at the Oscars when he won for TITANIC. Interesting.

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2017 - 5:52 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Listening to his "FLIGHT" music from THE HORSEMEN COMETH and this thought just came to me.

Why wasn't Horner's wife and children there in Vienna Celebrating his wonderful career, basically his life's work, with him? I certainly would want to have my family there sharing this great time with me. I know his assistant was there sitting at his side. I think his wife was there with him at the Oscars when he won for TITANIC. Interesting.


And that is the biggest secret of them all.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2017 - 7:23 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

Listening to his "FLIGHT" music from THE HORSEMEN COMETH and this thought just came to me.

Why wasn't Horner's wife and children there in Vienna Celebrating his wonderful career, basically his life's work, with him? I certainly would want to have my family there sharing this great time with me. I know his assistant was there sitting at his side. I think his wife was there with him at the Oscars when he won for TITANIC. Interesting.


Because his assistant was more than just his assistant. No, that is not sarcasm.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2017 - 8:27 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

And we should remember that most, if not all, obituaries stated "he leaves a wife and two daughters".

The Magnificent Seven CD notes thank his wife.

Nothing good can come from this thread. It's a public forum. Leave it be.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2017 - 9:43 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)


Nothing good can come from this thread. It's a public forum. Leave it be.


Just like the thread asking about what kind of trashy things did Jerry Goldsmith say about him....the man died in 2004 and in 2017 people wonder what kind of shit-talk went on. Does that matter? Not really if people pose the questions.

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2017 - 10:36 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

Maybe they were afraid of flying with him...

Too soon?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2017 - 11:48 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

I would hope to see Danny Elfman's wife and family at his Tribute later this year in Vienna. I would think they are very proud of him and would want to share in a wonderful celebration.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Okay, as tact and diplomacy was never my strong suit, I'll address the big elephant sat in this thread (which should be on t'other side of the board).
I was actually more shocked when I found out Horner had a wife and kids.
From interviews I'd seen and heard, I just assumed he was gay (yes, I know about ass and you and me).
Having an effeminate manner should never be an assumption of one's sexual preference...
Anyway, obviously Horner preferred to keep this stuff private, as was his right, but since his death, people tend to ask questions that remained unsaid during life.
Such is life - and death - I suppose.

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 6:58 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

I would hope to see Danny Elfman's wife and family at his Tribute later this year in Vienna. I would think they are very proud of him and would want to share in a wonderful celebration.

Here's another thought: maybe they, or their spouses, don't consider it all that big of a deal.

Somehow I don't see Bridgette Fonda being overly impressed with something like this...

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

It's a very American thing ('sorry!) to trot out your wife & kids in public if you're a celebrity. I get the impression certain sections of the US public think that's some sort of endorsement of family values or something. Especially is this so with politicians, and even clerics, to show you're a reg'lar family guy .... hence the satirical cartoon show...

In Europe it's more ambiguous. That'd be called suspect. After all, your children deserve privacy, not to be exploited in a sort of low-key molestation.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

I guess it's just a personal choice by each composer. John Williams usually attends the Oscars with his daughter. At his Kennedy Center Honor his wife was with him.

We don't know what goes on in a person's personal life. I was just naturally curious. Some people in any kind of show business are truly private with their family life. If this is the case with Maestro Horner, I will respect that. In my heart I would had loved to see his wife and daughters with him on such a great celebration. Perhaps over the years Horner and his wife became separated? Who knows? I in no way meant to post this to demean Horner or his family. I was lucky to have met him and he was really really nice.

God Bless him!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   daretodream   (Member)

Okay, as tact and diplomacy was never my strong suit, I'll address the big elephant sat in this thread (which should be on t'other side of the board).
I was actually more shocked when I found out Horner had a wife and kids.
From interviews I'd seen and heard, I just assumed he was gay (yes, I know about ass and you and me).
Having an effeminate manner should never be an assumption of one's sexual preference...
Anyway, obviously Horner preferred to keep this stuff private, as was his right, but since his death, people tend to ask questions that remained unsaid during life.
Such is life - and death - I suppose.


Funny you should say that. I had exactly the same impression from watching interviews with him. That is until I found out he was married with children.

I would hope to see Danny Elfman's wife and family at his Tribute later this year in Vienna. I would think they are very proud of him and would want to share in a wonderful celebration.

Or his hot ass violinist...wink wink.

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

This is a weird thread. But yes, Sandy Cameron is mesmerizing to watch.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

I guess it's just a personal choice by each composer. John Williams usually attends the Oscars with his daughter. At his Kennedy Center Honor his wife was with him.

We don't know what goes on in a person's personal life. I was just naturally curious. Some people in any kind of show business are truly private with their family life. If this is the case with Maestro Horner, I will respect that. In my heart I would had loved to see his wife and daughters with him on such a great celebration. Perhaps over the years Horner and his wife became separated? Who knows? I in no way meant to post this to demean Horner or his family. I was lucky to have met him and he was really really nice.

God Bless him!




James Horner was a lot of things:

Pilot
Cave Diver
Avid Skier, good enough to be a professional
Mineral and Crystal collector (his collection was so vast he had to sell it for millions of dollars because it was such an obsession it caused a lot of problems with his family)
Radio control Car enthusiast (and even builder)
Antique Toy collector and toy builder
Source of decades of discussion and debate among film music fandom (and will continue to be for eternity it seems)


(A lot of these things I learned mainly because when he died, a lot of people connected to him reminisced about just WHO he was and what he enjoyed in life...and none of it was gleaned through any private or secret channels or connections)

Father of two, friend of many....

Gay was something he was not....not that there's anything wrong with that.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

This is a weird thread. But yes, Sandy Cameron is mesmerizing to watch.

I thought he was talking about violinist Bruce Dukov who always kind of reminded me of James Horner and Roddy McDowall in the face:

https://www.google.com/search?q=bruce+dukov+violin&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4obOMw-PSAhVOHGMKHbmNDhUQ_AUICSgC&biw=1269&bih=599#imgrc=p8qubD_YnSOqXM:

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I know next-to-nothing about James Horner's personal life (I once sat next to him at a restaurant, but he was with a colleague). Some here claim to have insights. Whatever.

Why might his wife and daughters not go to Vienna? Well, it's Vienna. It's not the same as going to the local Oscars on a weekend. And certainly, nobody expected the Vienna tribute to be the final one.

Or maybe they hated each other.

Famous people marry and divorce, they have kids, they worry about their kids and yell at their kids, they get sick, they eat in restaurants, they have many scarves. (Okay, that last one is mostly just Horner.) Some are fairly private, as Horner was. We know him through his music.

I guess what I'm saying is, to borrow a phrase from US magazine: Composers. They're just like us.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   musicpaladin2007   (Member)

Personally I never knew he flew until he died in a plane crash.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 7:01 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

I find this to be an interesting topic, and while I can understand the ambivalence some expressed given his recent death, I don't fully agree with the notion that it's best to simply leave it be. Tchaikovsky's closeted homosexuality is well-documented and discussed. Ditto for Ravel's frequent visits to Parisian brothels. And we needn't get started on Beethoven's 'immortal beloved', do we...?

I digress: To understand the work of a composer, artist, etc. more deeply, it helps to know a little about them beyond simply their work itself. I don't think anyone's curiosity here exists out of malice or poses any harm. It's natural curiosity about a facet of a much-loved composer's personal life.

Ditto for the "scandals" involved in the comments Goldsmith made about him, something a lot of users here seem reluctant to discuss per another recent thread. Classical music is rife with one famed composer slandering the work of another ad nauseam. It's just part of this world.

Why must it be taboo to discuss these things, so long as it is not done with malignancy or deliberate misinformation...?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

People have always enjoyed badmouthing James Horner as both a composer and as a person.

Jerry Goldsmith is revered as a "God" among so many film music fans, yet many enjoy the insults and other petty remarks and behaviors as they were directed toward composers like Horner people enjoyed trashing.

Why bring THAT up now years after Goldsmith died and now Horner is gone as well, is what really begs the question. At least regarding that thread.

Reminds me of a guy who frequents the JWFan forum who has enjoyed years of berating Horner, recently calling him the "biggest prick of them all". That kind of statement says volumes about the anonymous forum member who made it rather than about Horner.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 7:58 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Why must it be taboo to discuss these things, so long as it is not done with malignancy or deliberate misinformation...?

I suppose it's fine. Not what I care about, but fine. Again, it's very possible some people who have posted here legitimately know something about Horner's romantic life that I do not. I just don't personally think we need to read a lot into why his wife and daughters weren't in Vienna, because there could be any number of boring reasons for that.

 
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