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 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 5:00 AM   
 By:   barryfan1   (Member)

I am listening to the Midnight Cowboy CD, (still in print since 1969) and it becomes even more evident to me, as my friend and fellow John Barry fan has often mentioned, we need a fully remastered and expanded version of this groundbreaking score, with all the alternate and demo cues. So I was wondering, how many other people out there would want this too? Maybe if enough interest is generated maybe one of the labels might investigate it?

Mike

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 6:05 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

It's on my wishlist. Wasnt the CD release a re-recording?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 6:35 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Would love to have the original tracks plus any alternates and unused cues....

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 6:45 AM   
 By:   Carburetor Float   (Member)

It's on my wishlist. Wasnt the CD release a re-recording?

Yes, the CD is not the Film Score ... it's re-recording version ... anyway, it would be great if some label released the Film Score of this movie ...

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 7:20 AM   
 By:   captain X   (Member)

Another vote from me. Love its music and the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 7:25 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I tried to make a music (with effects) rip from the 5.1 dvd audio since dialog is usually on one channel, but the music was too separated, didnt come out well.

Anyone know if Voight's "got a telephone call from Jesus" is from an actual song?

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   Carburetor Float   (Member)

I tried to make a music (with effects) rip from the 5.1 dvd audio since dialog is usually on one channel, but the music was too separated, didnt come out well.

Humm...It was not good? What a pity, would be an alternative ... Anyway, I recognize your efforts, fellow. I already tried to do some things like that, with some other soundtracks ... a long time ago I did this with 'The Odd Couple' (but in this case, there are almost no dialogues during the music) ... but now with the Varese release film score, this is solved for me ...

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

This is an all-time classic film score and yes, I'd love the complete original side-by-side with a quality remaster of the original album tracks.

(Those early EMI-Manhattan CDs were not well mastered.)

I did suggest this to Chris Neel when he was still the main man for enabling MGM related score releases and he thought it was a good idea and looked into it. However—and forgive me, I can't remember the specifics—but I seem to recall the problem was there was no way to get the original tracks out while the commercial album was still another company's property. And, I think it's another company's property in perpetuity.

In other words, it looked then like it's something that could never ever happen.

But, finger's crossed. Times change. Attitudes change. Possibilities change.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

We need Ray Donovan to get it done for us.

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 1:49 AM   
 By:   barryfan1   (Member)

Thanks for the responses. I think an expansion is long overdue and would love to see it happen. As far as the problem of doing a different release while another is still in print goes, both Intrada and La La Land managed to do The Blue Max while the Legacy edition was still around, so at least there's a precedent.

Anyway, thanks again for your comments. Maybe someday?

Mike

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 5:00 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

As far as the problem of doing a different release while another is still in print goes, both Intrada and La La Land managed to do The Blue Max while the Legacy edition was still around, so at least there's a precedent.

But those scores have nothing to do with this one. The issue may be contractual and only apply to this particular score. Lukas has often mentioned that each album is a completely different situation with unique language.

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 5:00 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

D.P.

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 5:55 AM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

The same has been said about the Mancini titles - and now we have the original tracks of "Breakfast At Tiffany's", "Hatari", "Charade" and "Two For The Road". "Giant" also required additional agreement with UMG to get it done. It's not impossible but I think it would require a lot of extra money which may not match with sales figures for this kind of title...

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 6:45 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

All I'm saying is that “precedent” doesn't mean much unless you know the contractual language.

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Another difference between Midnight Cowboy and, say, Hatari, is that it is/was a commercial ('pop' if you will) album not just a film soundtrack and there's multiple artists involved, which likely means complicated licensing.

That said, times change, I hope this can happen.

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   barryfan1   (Member)

Well like I said thanks for all the interest and feedback.

I guess we will have to wait and see if it's possible.

Mike

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 6:33 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Believe it or not, other than one or two famous scenes I've never actually seen 'Midnight Cowboy'. How much extra JB music is in it over the cues featured on the original CD?

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

I tried to make a music (with effects) rip from the 5.1 dvd audio since dialog is usually on one channel, but the music was too separated, didnt come out well.

Certainly a worthy effort, sad that it didn’t work. I didn’t even get that technical; I simply recorded the two pieces at the end of the film, when Razzo dies and then the end title music, to add to my Midnight Cowboy playlist. However, that didn’t really work out well either as the sound quality and presence of these two are much different than the OST in that they sound much more up close and personal (and heart-breakingly beautiful). To add to my frustration my mp3 player still sorts these tracks as first and second on the list, no matter what changes I make to their properties.

 
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