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Apr 28, 2017 - 7:42 AM
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OnyaBirri
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Well you left out the word, watershead to make your point.
We're talking about 1967, so of course there was many amazing LPs released before then (Pet Sounds & Blonde On Blonde immediately come to mind). There's many (me included) who think Revolver is their best album, & my favourites are, A Hard Days Night & Rubber Soul (& I hope they also get the stereo remix treatment). I was 16 in London when Pepper was released, & it hit the scene like a wrecking ball, & I think it's great when something as ephemeral as a pop record is celebrated 50 years on, so many of my favourite records have slipped into obscurity...& it's releases like this that are going to get me through the forthcoming UK general election.
I hear you. My impetus for posting is that it seems there is an entire generation - or more - of rock-centric listeners, and even some critics, who seem to think that the Beatles did everything first and best. I have read some outrageous claims over the years about alleged innovations of the Beatles. In this case, the potential of the LP was explored as early as the invention of the LP. Producers, composers, and artists were making conceptual LPs with striking cover art from the very beginning of the LP era. LPs as a category were not mere collections of tracks, as has been suggested.
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ya know in 1987... "it was twenty years ago today..." celebrating this masterpiece seemed timely and relevant.
Now, it's been done to death.
Let it be
BRM
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ya know in 1987... "it was twenty years ago today..." celebrating this masterpiece seemed timely and relevant.
Now, it's been done to death.
Let it be
BRM
...but then we'd be stuck with a bad stereo mix that no one likes (& a poor re-master) just because of your twenty year rule. No. No 
Nothing will ever compare to the magic of hearing this lp when it first came out. On vinyl, On any kind of record player.
If you were there, you understand,
'nuff said
bro
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May 7, 2017 - 3:39 PM
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Rameau
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...but then we'd be stuck with a bad stereo mix that no one likes (& a poor re-master) just because of your twenty year rule. No. No
Not everyone hates the stereo mix! I prefer it to the mono mix (for the most part, with a few exceptions). I've never understood this love affair with the mono mix of PEPPER everyone else seems to have. It's often poorly balanced, poorly edited (the transition from the chicken cluck into the guitar between "Good Morning, Good Morning" and "Sgt. Pepper... {reprise}" is awkward and clunky in mono, smooth and seemless in stereo), thin sounding, etc. Just because the Beatles were present during it's creation doesn't mean it actually sounds better to *everybody*! I use my own ears and judgment, not who was sitting in the room when a fader was lifted to pick which mix I prefer....
ADDED: And for the record, I'm in favor of this new box set release and mix; any chance to hear the Beatles in a new way (and in improved sound) is okay in my book. 
Yes, I've only ever heard the stereo mix (well that's probably not true, it was played everywhere in 1967 & I went to a lot of parties & gatherings where the LP was being played, usually on a mono record player) I've been listening on headphones since around 1970, & so preferred stereo (& still do), so I've only listened to it seriously in stereo. There is the story that the mono mix took ages, with all the Beatles there, & none of the Beatles were there for the stereo mix, that was knocked off in no time at all, & apparently George Harrison hated the stereo mix. So looking forward to hearing a new punchy mix (plus the other stuff in the second disc) at the end of the month, & looking forward to buying a CD is a rarity for me these days.
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The iTunes download of the remix is plenty punchy and fun. All the standard complaints are valid (compression! infidelity to the original intent!), but that ignores the historical angle. Imagine the Louvre telling patrons they could only look at Michaelangelo's David from only a single angle.
In short, you can hear stuff you couldn't hear without a thorough remix. The whole production still sounds very "'60s". Plus, Ringo likes the more clearly defined percussion. Yeah, it's definitely a messed-with album, but in the noble service of exposing more of the original performances, not covering them up.
You decide, pop music consumer!
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