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 Posted:   Apr 17, 2017 - 10:16 PM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

MAROONED (1969) was playing in theatres in the USA when the Apollo 13 near-disaster took place. The movie mirrored the news headlines dramatically, and the film's boxoffice take was increased because of it.

THE CHINA SYNDROME (1979) was also playing in theatres in the USA when the Three Mile Island nuclear incident occurred. This one is close to home for me, since I live a short drive from that nuclear plant. In the film, one of the nuclear experts describes a potential meltdown, saying it could "...render an area the size of Pennsylvania permanently uninhabitable!" Chilling.

Are there any other "prophetic" films that you can think of?

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 2:31 AM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

Black Sunday - A group of terrorists planning to use an aircraft to kill thousands of people.

I'll try to come up with a film closer in time to the actual event as in your examples.

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 3:06 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Network (1976) Take a look at our hideous, divisive, shameless, and destructive media--all done for the Almighty Dollar--and suddenly Peter Finch's acting doesn't seem so over the top anymore.

The Siege (1998) -Maybe we'll see somethng like this soon...minus the Bruce Willis acting stuff, though doubtful, as these people are the very worst "actors" ever.

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 4:36 AM   
 By:   Metryq   (Member)

The following examples may not be the kind of "prophecy" intended by the subject heading:

Runaway (1984) with Tom Selleck was a "near future" thriller about a cop who deals with run-amuck robots. In one scene the police prepare a "floater" to go in and survey a crime scene. Today we'd recognize it as the camera drones used by hobbyists—designs now sleeker and more sophisticated than the concept device seen in the movie.

Space: 1999 (1975) was more of a haunted castle in space than hard sci-fi, but it featured an Internet-like computer system and an "Internet of Things" set of devices. Stand-alone computers were generally not seen in the series. Residents of Moonbase Alpha tapped into the central computer from terminals, some of them voice controlled. "Commlocks" were a combination unit we'd recognize as a smartphone and "swipe key" device. Various pass-key systems existed at the time the series was produced, but now they are ubiquitous. The commlocks also offered access to the central computer from anywhere, and provided direct video communication. Several episodes also featured wearable health monitors, similar to FitBit.

Looker (1981) and Twenty Minutes Into The Future: The Max Headroom Story (1985) both spoofed technologies used in advertising to sway audiences, especially the use of computer generated people. Today CGI rejuvenates old actors, or even brings them back from the dead. (The irony of Max Headroom is that the computer generated character was played by an actor wearing plastic "appliances" and makeup to look CGI.) The eye-tracking technology seen in Looker is now used in real advertising posters. They know when you're watching.

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 6:59 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

Please note, I'm wiping political comments to spare the thread, but if people can't control themselves, the thread will be locked.

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 7:43 AM   
 By:   Metryq   (Member)

Sounds like a prophetic warning to me.

When I lived in Miami Beach, I noted that stores, restaurants and other shops came and went like seasons. (Perhaps since the area had no seasons otherwise.) So a shop being refurbished for new use was a common sight. I wasn't carrying a camera at the time and missed a perfect photo: a sign in a window announcing "Psychic coming soon."

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

1984

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Please note, I'm wiping political comments to spare the thread, but if people can't control themselves, the thread will be locked.

Idiocracy (2006)

Our moderator lives the dream.

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Schwarzenegger flick Collateral Damage was edited and delayed due to subject matter related to current events.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 10:50 AM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

Allardyce, you have my permission to close this thread.
RoryR is doing his utmost to force it to be closed.

Go ahead and shut it down.

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Allardyce, you have my permission to close this thread.
RoryR is doing his utmost to force it to be closed.

Go ahead and shut it down.


Hey, I'm against closing down anything.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I understand Chris's point of view. I find that this topic is wonderful, even if I am still trying to come up with a valid contribution. Hopefully if there are NO more violations of FSM's rules, this topic can continue without the rules-violation-virus because it is an important topic.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

While based on a book, some see The Manchurian Candidate (1962) about a communist-trained lone gunman conspiracy as foreshadowing the JFK assassination.

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

I understand Chris's point of view. I find that this topic is wonderful, even if I am still trying to come up with a valid contribution. Hopefully if there are NO more violations of FSM's rules, this topic can continue without the rules-violation-virus because it is an important topic.

Unfortunately, what violates the rules is a matter of the opinion of the moderator, and I just don't get this guy's mindset. So, all I can do is test the waters.

Therefore,

Seven Days in May. I think it could happen.

The Manchurian Candidate. Has it happened?

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

Has nothing to do with opinion or mindset. The rules were written by the owner of FSM. I am merely enforcing them.

From Community Rules:
2) No political or religious discussion. There are countless places online to discuss religion and politics but only a few to discuss film music. Even in the non-film music discussion side of our board, we do not allow religious or political talk. We have found that such threads always (regardless of which “side” you are on) degenerate into fights and acrimony. Obviously there are topics that border on these areas; please use your judgment. If you want to discuss your favorite scores to religious films, that’s fine, just don’t use it to sermonize—and if somebody else does so, report it to us, and don’t take the bait. (These are sensitive topics; please respect that other people may not only have different views, but different sensibilities towards discussing them.)

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

All my choices would probably be labeled "political" so I'll just add this one...

ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST
I am living through the prophetic nature of this film right now:

"You don't sell the dream of a lifetime".
"Other Morton's will be along, and they'll kill it off".
- Harmonica (Charles Bronson)

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 1:39 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

TWILIGHT ZONE had a couple of eerily prophetic eps;

'Number Nine (13?) Looks Just Like Me"
about every one undergoing cosmetic surgery to eliminate physical "flaws'

The one about automation destroying all the jobs in a factory including the manager (Richard Deacon)
b

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 1:40 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

.

Unfortunately, what violates the rules is a matter of the opinion of the moderator, and I just don't get this guy's mindset. So, all I can do is test the waters.

Therefore,

Seven Days in May. I think it could happen.


It did happen>
November 22, 1963

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

"So, all I can do is test the waters."

RoryR, you were the very first to post here in my new thread.
You were not interested in "testing" anything.
You made a political (and to some here, insulting) remark, which you full well know is considered to be illegal.
When our moderator erased that post, you responded by insulting him.

I don't call that sort of behavior "testing," RoryR.

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2017 - 7:58 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

I suppose 'Shoes of the Fisherman' doesn't count, since it was the original novel that was prophetic.

Some of the above examples are not 'prophetic' but film writers' warnings on outcomes of the state of things, or even commentary on what's already there.

Since dreams and creativity and screenwriting are all linked from the same psychic and imaginative sources, it's not surprising that a movie could be a crystallised image of what we unconsciously know will happen though.

I found 'Titanic' an indulgent film, cashing in on, and revelling in, a tragic disaster (mind you I've narrated no less than four Titanic based bits, so who am I to complain?) and couldn't help linking the September 11th images of people falling to their deaths from tall buildings with the ship up-ending scene. You wonder what it is in the modern psyche that gets a thrill from apocalyptic disasters, especially real ones.

Then again do terrorists take their cues for their monstrous art from images they know the public already fear and anticipate in movies? 'Chicken and egg.

A crappy UK soap-opera had a plane crash on top of a village broadcast the week after the Lockerbie bomb disaster. They swore the episode was months in production, and this was a coincidence. Knowing how UK crappy soaps try to be 'relevant' to claim credibility, I'd be sceptical, and most people were appalled and accused them of cashing in.

But art is a form of dream product and collective unconscious contents can manifest that way.

Sir Kenneth made 'Henry V', and made it brooding and dark. Sir Larry made 'Henry V' at a time when the world was coming OUT of a bad war period, deliberately, with bright colours and alchemical 'new birth' imagery. I felt almost irrationally superstitious that Sir Ken (who, let's face it, has been emulating Sir Larry in his choice of film projects ...) was 'reversing' the older film, and, in the name of modernity, magically plunging the world back into chaos. Maybe he was, unconsciously, tapping in to that? Read the seasons.

It's worth pointing out that 'prophecy' as understood by theologians and psychologists is not predicting the future: it's picking up the unrecognised elements of how things are going and warning. And 'psychic' is a scientific word to describe the ENTIRE umbrella of conscious and unconscious processes. That's what art is for, so don't be surprised.

 
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