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 Posted:   Jun 23, 2017 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

FRIDAY, JUNE 23

PREDATOR: ORAL HISTORY---for the 30th anniversary of the classic sci fi movie, THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER published an oral history of the movie by its cast and crew.

Link: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/predator-oral-history-arnold-schwarzenegger-film-1014132






BLADE RUNNER 2049---spoiler alert (see below).

HAN SOLO---sources gave details about why Lucasfilm fired co-directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller. Lucasfilm wanted a "grounded" movie with some humor which is similar to the tone of the original trilogy. However, Lord and Miller wanted more emphasis on comedy and more improvisation which departed from the script. Lucasfilm felt "the directors had a responsibility to tell the story as written." Also, star Alden Ehrenreich had expressed concern over how the movie was turning out.

FIREFLY---Nathan Fillion hinted a possible FIREFLY sequel when posted a photo of his reunion with former co-stars Morena Baccarin and Alan Tudyk with the caption, “What do you want to believe we talked about?” Fox has said it would be interested in a sequel if Joss Whedon was involved.






REVENGE OF THE NERD---in his upcoming memoir, Curtis Armstrong, who co-starred with Tom Cruise in RISKY BUSINESS, commented on Cruise's extra-curricular activities while filming the movie, "He self-identified as a born-again Christian and the rumor was he had actually considered shepherding souls for a living. I could believe it. Away from the set, initially, Tom made straight arrows look like corkscrews. I would ask him at the end of the day if he would like to join us at the bar for a drink. "No," I recall him saying, "Got an early call tomorrow. Got to work out still, study my lines. And then I like to read the Bible a little before bed."
I laughed. He didn't. "Ah," I said, cutting off the laugh at the pass and nodding wisely. "A little bit of the Good Book before bedtime, eh?"
"Yeah," he said. "Just a little at night. Keeps me on the right track, you know?"
But then, returning late one night, I found three or four young girls — late teens, I suspect — lined up in the hall outside of Tom's room. I remember thinking, "Tom's going to be really upset if these hot girls interfere with his Bible reading." So I asked them, with all the stern gravitas of my 28 years, if there was something I could do to help them.
They just stared at me, and at that moment, Tom's door opened and another girl came out, adjusting her hair and taking off down the hall, while the first girl in line slipped into Tom's room. This was a young man who knew something about time management and understood how to successfully juggle Bible study and blow jobs. I went to bed alone that night thinking it served me right for not being religious."





AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR---the characters that will reportedly appear in the sequel are: Iron Man, Captain America, Winter Soldier, Falcon, Thor, Loki, Valkyrie, Hulk, Spider-Man, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Doctor Strange, Wong, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Black Panther, Okoye, Man-Ape, Star-Lord, Gamora, Drax, Rocket, Groot, Nebula, Mantis, Nick Fury, Maria Hill, Thanos, Black Order and The Collector. Rumors say Captain Marvel and Maria Hill might also appear.
AQUAMAN---Michael Beach (THE 100) will play Jesse Kane, who is "part of a group of high-seas hijackers who has a fateful interaction with Aquaman."

SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING---Jennifer Connelly may have an undisclosed role in the movie after she was listed in the IMDB cast as "Karen/Suit Lady".

VENOM---Carnage is the lead villain in the Spider-Man spinoff movie.

SKYSCRAPER---Neve Campbell will co-star in an undisclosed role in the Dwayne Johnson disaster movie about ex-FBI agent Will Ford, a skyscraper security expert, who is framed for a fire in a Chinese mega-skyscraper, and must prove he's innocent and save his family.

LOIS & CLARK---Dean Cain said he hopes a sequel might be in the future, "We ended our show after four seasons in a weird way because we’re supposed to do a fifth season. Teri [Hatcher] got pregnant in between and couldn’t work on that fifth season so they decided to shut it down. I would have liked to done that fifth season, I think we still need a fifth season, we need something, at least part of a fifth season. So I’m hoping that we get a chance to maybe finish up the series.”
He added, “Maybe it’s six episodes, maybe it’s 10 episodes, maybe it’s a two-hour movie. But I think it would be really interesting to catch up with these two characters 20 years down the line and see what’s happened in their lives. If they have had children or what’s going on with their kids, I think it’s really interesting and I’m certainly willing to.”

WIDOWS---Carrie Coon (FARGO) has joined the cast of Liam Neeson, Robert Duvall, Colin Farrell and Viola Davis in the US remake of the British miniseries.

CHRISTOPHER ROBIN---Gemma Arterton is in talks to co-star with Ewan McGregor in the Walt Disney Pictures live-action movie. Arterton would play Robin's wife, Evelyn.
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BLADE RUNNER 2049---Ridley Scott said Rick Deckard is a replicant which will be revealed in the sequel, "Oh, it was always my thesis theory. It was one or two people who were relevant were… I can’t remember if Hampton [writer Hampton Fancher] agreed with me or not. But I remember someone had said, “Well, isn’t it corny?” I said, “Listen, I’ll be the best f***ing judge of that. I’m the director, okay?” So, and that, you learn — you know, by then I’m 44, so I’m no f***ing chicken. I’m a very experienced director from commercials and THE DUELISTS and ALIEN. So, I’m able to, you know, answer that with confidence at the time, and say, “You know, back off, it’s what it’s gonna be.” Harrison, he was never — I don’t remember, actually. I think Harrison was going, “Uh, I don’t know about that.” I said, “But you have to be, because Gaff, who leaves a trail of origami everywhere, will leave you a little piece of origami at the end of the movie to say, ‘I’ve been here, I left her alive, and I can’t resist letting you know what’s in your most private thoughts when you get drunk is a f***ing unicorn!’” Right? So, I love BEAVIS AND BUTT-HEAD, so what should follow that is “Duh.” So now it will be revealed [in the sequel], one way or the other."
Scott also said he was inspired by George Lucas and his STAR WARS franchise when he began developing ALIEN sequels and he might start a BLADE RUNNER franchise, "George Lucas. You know, and the way he’s handled STAR WARS has been spectacular. It’s what I’ve been trying to do to really evolve ALIEN, because in those days I wasn’t into making sequels, but now suddenly you realize, ‘Well, that’s stupid.’ I’ll use the word ‘duh’ again, right? You’d better get into sequels, duh. So, that’s in a way what I’ve been doing.”

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2017 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

HAN SOLO---sources gave details about why Lucasfilm fired co-directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller. Lucasfilm wanted a "grounded" movie with some humor which is similar to the tone of the original trilogy. However, Lord and Miller wanted more emphasis on comedy and more improvisation which departed from the script. Lucasfilm felt "the directors had a responsibility to tell the story as written." Also, star Alden Ehrenreich had expressed concern over how the movie was turning out.

Why the hell did they hire them in the first place then? Why hire people to do something other than what they're known for?

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2017 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I'm beginning to think that the "Ridley Scott" making liked-only-by-Thor ALIEN prequels is a replicant and that the talented director (who ripped off David Maloney's Dr Who serial THE ARK IN SPACE) has been put in deep freeze.

I truly believe this (this is a sci-fi worshiper's forum, so I "have to" state this).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2017 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

Yep.. they both screwed up big. Its weak, when they can't figure out, a whole new fresh film, so they steal previous tones from an earlier trilogy. Lazy.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2017 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   PeteP   (Member)

I'm beginning to think that the "Ridley Scott" making liked-only-by-Thor ALIEN prequels is a replicant and that the talented director (who ripped off David Maloney's Dr Who serial THE ARK IN SPACE) has been put in deep freeze.

I truly believe this (this is a sci-fi worshiper's forum, so I "have to" state this).


I am convinced that this "Deckard is a replicant" bullshit only came into Ridley's mind well after the film was released. The unicorn was about Rachel.

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2017 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

I believe everyone should watch PLANET OF THE APES movies instead. That and 2001.

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2017 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I am convinced that this "Deckard is a replicant" bullshit only came into Ridley's mind well after the film was released. The unicorn was about Rachel.

Gaff was into origami quite early on - the "chicken" and "man" statements made that quite clear. Deckard already knows Rachael might try "boiled dog" at the dinner table, when compelled to interview her by none other than Eldon Tyrell. "Indulge me," says Tyrell, "I want to see a negative before I provide a positive." Make of that what you will. Then there's the Director's Cut which includes the fairy tale unicorn.

It is more likely the unicorn relates to Deckard, and that both he and Rachael are special cases. We see him out of focus behind Rachael, eyes glowing amber like the others, in his apartment, when he's explaining to Rachael he won't hunt her, but someone else will. There are the expendable 'off-world' types like the 'Roy Batty' and 'Pris' replicants, then there are the murky experimental types that are made simply because they can be made. The idea that Tyrell gets Deckard to check out Rachael so as to see what a replicant, who thinks he's a human, says about a replicant demonstrated to be as much, is an interesting take on controlling power play. If Deckard is a replicant, then Gaff does exactly the same thing, except at the end of the movie he isn't playing any games and is, in fact, about as humane as they get in the Blade Runner universe, for letting Deckard in on the score. Interestingly, earlier in the film, when Gaff comes looking for Deckard for a quick talk with Bryant, he taps Deckard on the back rather brusquely with his stick to get his attention. Deckard reacts defensively by grabbing the stick handle in a manner which says, "not so fast sonny." It is as though Gaff sees Deckard as a lackey before tipping his hat in respect for having "done a man's job."

That way a human gets to play at ***, except for when a Nexus 6 comes a knockin' at the door.

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2017 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

HAN SOLO---sources gave details about why Lucasfilm fired co-directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller. Lucasfilm wanted a "grounded" movie with some humor which is similar to the tone of the original trilogy. However, Lord and Miller wanted more emphasis on comedy and more improvisation which departed from the script. Lucasfilm felt "the directors had a responsibility to tell the story as written." Also, star Alden Ehrenreich had expressed concern over how the movie was turning out.

Why the hell did they hire them in the first place then? Why hire people to do something other than what they're known for?


Because word is that writer Lawrence Kasdan fought vociferously for these two to be hired as directors. However, you can't predict the future and it turned out even Kasdan was upset with changes they were making to his script and overall story during shooting. If you could plan for every eventuality, then there'd be no surprise, so don't be harsh on the execs for somehow being short-sighted in hiring Lord and Miller.

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2017 - 2:38 PM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

FIREFLY---Nathan Fillion hinted a possible FIREFLY sequel when posted a photo of his reunion with former co-stars Morena Baccarin and Alan Tudyk with the caption, “What do you want to believe we talked about?” Fox has said it would be interested in a sequel if Joss Whedon was involved.

I live in hope smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2017 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I agree with Jim. The Ridley Scott who made a few decent films in the long time ago was replaced by this new replicant version who does nothing but make shit and talk even more shit.

 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2017 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I'm beginning to think that the "Ridley Scott" making liked-only-by-Thor ALIEN prequels is a replicant and that the talented director (who ripped off David Maloney's Dr Who serial THE ARK IN SPACE) has been put in deep freeze.

I truly believe this (this is a sci-fi worshiper's forum, so I "have to" state this).


Not for nothing, but the last movie I enjoyed by Scott was White Squall.

That was 20 years ago. I think it's time for him to retire and just smoke cigars and act arrogant on Bluray bonus material videos.

 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2017 - 7:02 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)


Not for nothing, but the last movie I enjoyed by Scott was White Squall.

That was 20 years ago. I think it's time for him to retire and just smoke cigars and act arrogant on Bluray bonus material videos.


He's been a pretentious hack for at least that long and not just as a director but also producer. His legacy is mostly a lot of lowbrow, forgettable dreck which, depressingly, most of the public sees as worthwhile entertainment.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2017 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I think it's time for him to retire and just smoke cigars and act arrogant on Bluray bonus material videos.

Definitely, but there's an old adage: "Those who can, do. Those who cant, go into politics."

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2017 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   Nightingale   (Member)


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BLADE RUNNER 2049---Ridley Scott said Rick Deckard is a replicant which will be revealed in the sequel, "Oh, it was always my thesis theory. It was one or two people who were relevant were… I can’t remember if Hampton [writer Hampton Fancher] agreed with me or not. But I remember someone had said, “Well, isn’t it corny?” I said, “Listen, I’ll be the best f***ing judge of that. I’m the director, okay?” So, and that, you learn — you know, by then I’m 44, so I’m no f***ing chicken. I’m a very experienced director from commercials and THE DUELISTS and ALIEN. So, I’m able to, you know, answer that with confidence at the time, and say, “You know, back off, it’s what it’s gonna be.” Harrison, he was never — I don’t remember, actually. I think Harrison was going, “Uh, I don’t know about that.” I said, “But you have to be, because Gaff, who leaves a trail of origami everywhere, will leave you a little piece of origami at the end of the movie to say, ‘I’ve been here, I left her alive, and I can’t resist letting you know what’s in your most private thoughts when you get drunk is a f***ing unicorn!’” Right? So, I love BEAVIS AND BUTT-HEAD, so what should follow that is “Duh.” So now it will be revealed [in the sequel], one way or the other."
Scott also said he was inspired by George Lucas and his STAR WARS franchise when he began developing ALIEN sequels and he might start a BLADE RUNNER franchise, "George Lucas. You know, and the way he’s handled STAR WARS has been spectacular. It’s what I’ve been trying to do to really evolve ALIEN, because in those days I wasn’t into making sequels, but now suddenly you realize, ‘Well, that’s stupid.’ I’ll use the word ‘duh’ again, right? You’d better get into sequels, duh. So, that’s in a way what I’ve been doing.”




I just lost 90% of my enthusiasm for this movie, not for the spoiler (I should have seen that coming) but Deckard being a Replicant drains the movie of all it's humanity (no pun intended).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2017 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I grow to dislike Ridley Scott more by the day, and the idea of a Bladerunner franchise is utter lunacy, stupidity and travesty.
So it is more important that ever that 2049 goes down in flames, which I am pretty sure it will.

 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2017 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I agree with Jim. The Ridley Scott who made a few decent films in the long time ago was replaced by this new replicant version who does nothing but make shit and talk even more shit.

But 2049 is not just a Sir Ridley tin of beans. Denis Villeneuve was at the helm, so it's not just one perspective that's involved. Having recently watched Blade Runner, the Director's Cut, I was struck how basic the plot is, in actuality. You just need to bear in mind some biological science. It ran for about 1hr 48mins. I'd want the new movie to run for longer and pack in quite some punch. There was no reference to Rachael, which is very much like not having Shaw around for A:C. When integral characters from the original plot go AWOL, a lot of making up for lost ground goes without saying.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2017 - 6:44 AM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

Original B/R on release had loads of hype, it was expected to Best Alien as a Sci-fi space movie, nope, it was a flop even Scott has admitted this a few times, its on par with Alien-3.

B/R film had a few good points. costumes, cinematography, actors to a degree, but the key-parts were script & action here, its a dull film, thin.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2017 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I agree with Jim. The Ridley Scott who made a few decent films in the long time ago was replaced by this new replicant version who does nothing but make shit and talk even more shit.

But 2049 is not just a Sir Ridley tin of beans. Denis Villeneuve was at the helm, so it's not just one perspective that's involved. Having recently watched Blade Runner, the Director's Cut, I was struck how basic the plot is, in actuality.


It's just a private eye movie. They reduced a dark-humoured social parody into a cliche-filled trope. I know it's apples and oranges to compare source material with film adaptions, and people love the eye candy in the film and how it's plot pans out, but I still find it disappointing that they stripped away so much of the good stuff in the novel.
Ridley claiming Deckard is obviously a replicant is impossible in the book; in the movie, just a cliche twist-ending. But Phil Dick was no Harlan Ellison and would have been ecstatic with any part of his work utilized for the big screen.

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2017 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Is it just me or does Scott seem really rambling and incoherent?

Additionally, and I say this knowing that a bunch of us have discussed this here many times, it is not legit for Scott to definitively state that Deckard is a replicant when, in actuality, that claim can be made ONLY for Scott's particular interpretation of Dick's story. Just because Scott wants it to be true doesn't make it true.

It seems to me to all simply be a wind-up to provoke interest in the upcoming movie that it might not have had otherwise.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2017 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

If he's a replicant in the film, then it's odd that he's so empathic, falls in love, has a job where everyone has known him for years, etc.

 
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