... and thus, were removed long time ago from streaming services/digital stores. Henry V, Dead Again, Indochine, Needful Things, Carlitos´ Way... al gone from Spotify, iTunes and Google Play.
All of this were Varese Sarabande releases, right (except Henry V)? I have thought of writing an email to let them know about this , but I don't know which is the correct email address (listed in their website) for this particular matter.
In any case, I love Doyle, and hope to see this titles return soon!
So, I have sent emails to Varese about this scores hopefully getting back in print soon and available digitally (except for indochine and Une Femme Francaise, that in Europe were released by WEA Records), but I´m confused with Henry V.
This one was originally released by EMI Records back in 1989, right?, Now it´s Warner Classics who has the rights to it?
It´s available from Amazon UK and Spotify UK, but not in Spain...
This one was originally released by EMI Records back in 1989, right?, Now it´s Warner Classics who has the rights to it?
As someone in the music biz I can shed some light on this -- EMI ceased being its own independent entity several years back. Over the past couple years, Warner Classics absorbed much of its recording catalogue (and I think Universal may have absorbed its music publishing). It's gone so far that the EMI logo isn't even seen on new releases any more, and even some older EMI product go re-branded Warner Classics.
Thank you all, and particularly you, Yavar, for such a detailed response.
They are in print and available digitally (both for purchase and streaming) in the US and the UK but not in Spain.
Governor, I was refering digital releases.
Here´s is hope that the expanded La-la-land Dead Again, being a Paramount title, will be available digitally in the future (perhaps when the physical CD is sold out)
So Jeff Safran from VS kindly replied to my emails and told me that Varese no longer has the rights of Dead Again, Indochine, Needful Things, or Donnie Brasco. He has no idea of why those titles are available digitally in the US, but if they are, some label has to have the digital rights. Wish I could know which one, and ask them about the possibility of make them avalaible in Europe.
Good news , however, about Carlito´s Way. Varese still have the digital rights worldwide to that score, and Jeff didn't understand why it isn't available on the Spanish iTunes Store. Anyway they´re gonna correct this, and it should be avalaible over the course of the following months.
As for Henry V, I emailed Warner Classic letting them know about it, but so far no answer back.
I guess I see your good news as bad news, and vice versa, since Varese hasn't yet shown an inclination to expand Doyle scores as Deluxe Editions. I would desperately love a complete release for Carlito's Way, and it looks like we'll have to wait until Varese decides it's worth doing (if that every happens).
But it's great to know that LLL or Intrada could tackle new versions of amazing scores like Needful Things!
But hey, Varese is gonna re-release -at least digitally- the standard Carlito´s Way edition in Europe (short, but amazing presentation), after being OOP, for so many years! That´s better than nothing.
But now that you say it ... How much music is missing from that CD? (considering the fairly amount of songs present in the movie). Would love a complete release that´s for sure. Doyle just kept writing masterpiece after masterpiece in the early 90. A genius.
PD: Complete and remastered Henry V, Needful Things, and Indochine would be awesome as well.
But hey, Varese is gonna re-release -at least digitally- the standard Carlito´s Way edition in Europe (short, but amazing presentation), after being OOP, for so many years! That´s better than nothing.
Happy for other people to get a chance at hearing that amazing music, but as a fortunate owner of a CD copy, the straight digital reissue doesn't do anything for me personally.
But now that you say it ... How much music is missing from that CD? (considering the fairly amount of songs present in the movie). Would love a complete release that´s for sure. Doyle just kept writing masterpiece after masterpiece in the early 90. A genius.
Good question, and it may not be easy to answer since a great deal of music that he wrote and recorded (and which even made its way onto the album) did not actually get used in the film. (Who knows what was written and recorded and not put in the film or even on the album?) But one key cue some fans have brought up regularly (in this case Shaun Rutherford): "The album has a bunch of stuff that wasn't used in the film, too, so it's definitely worth hearing apart from the film. Weird that it has a bunch of unused stuff, but it's missing that one great little cue (for the scene that's depicted on the film's poster AND on the back cover of the Varese album; again with using artwork for scenes that are scored but left off the album, Varese!)." http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=58389&forumID=1&archive=0
PD: Complete and remastered Henry V, Needful Things, and Indochine would be awesome as well.
Do you know Into the West? That one gets overlooked a lot, but it is absolutely GORGEOUS (I might put it ahead of A Little Princess in that category) and the existing CD has only a half hour of score.
But hey, Varese is gonna re-release -at least digitally- the standard Carlito´s Way edition in Europe (short, but amazing presentation), after being OOP, for so many years! That´s better than nothing.
Happy for other people to get a chance at hearing that amazing music, but as a fortunate owner of a CD copy, the straight digital reissue doesn't do anything for me personally.
But now that you say it ... How much music is missing from that CD? (considering the fairly amount of songs present in the movie). Would love a complete release that´s for sure. Doyle just kept writing masterpiece after masterpiece in the early 90. A genius.
Good question, and it may not be easy to answer since a great deal of music that he wrote and recorded (and which even made its way onto the album) did not actually get used in the film. (Who knows what was written and recorded and not put in the film or even on the album?) But one key cue some fans have brought up regularly (in this case Shaun Rutherford): "The album has a bunch of stuff that wasn't used in the film, too, so it's definitely worth hearing apart from the film. Weird that it has a bunch of unused stuff, but it's missing that one great little cue (for the scene that's depicted on the film's poster AND on the back cover of the Varese album; again with using artwork for scenes that are scored but left off the album, Varese!)." http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=58389&forumID=1&archive=0
PD: Complete and remastered Henry V, Needful Things, and Indochine would be awesome as well.
Do you know Into the West? That one gets overlooked a lot, but it is absolutely GORGEOUS (I might put it ahead of A Little Princess in that category) and the existing CD has only a half hour of score.
Yavar
I´m also responding with this is at your las post in the MV/La-la-land thread, Yavar. Since it is about Doyle, I thought better post it here.
Agreed with you 100%, Yavar.
Henry V is indeed the best film score debut of all time, awesome. To your list, I would add Much Ado About Nothing, East-West, Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, Hamlet ,Sense and Sensibility, Love Labour´s Lost, Killing me Softly and As you Like in the masterpieces category. Harry Potter was nice, if too bombastic. Same with Nanny McPhee. From this decade, Cinderella is absolutely gorgeous and A United Kingdom is quite nice. Whisky Galore it´s merely ok.
As for Thor, Jack Ryan, and the Apes, they are by far the worst scores in the entire Doyle´s career and still manages to beat Zimmer and most remote control composer´s at their own game.
I haven´t heard Into the West or Shipwrecked (nor Mrs Winterbourne, for that matter) Are they any good?
PD: Interesting situation about Carlito´s Way complete score. Still, I suspect that 15-20 minutes used in the film could be missed from the CD.
Agreed with you 100%, Yavar. Henry V is indeed the best film score debut of all time, awesome.
I mean, I said "arguably" because there's also Prokofiev's Lt. Kije, Herrmann's Citizen Kane, Corigliano's Altered States, Scott's A Study in Terror, Bernstein's On the Waterfront, Rozsa's Knight Without Armor, Copland's Of Mice and Men (though I might be cheating by including it since he wrote the short documentary score to The City beforehand)...and Goldsmith's Black Patch is really no slouch, either!
But I think in the modern era, Doyle's Henry V is more clearly out in front of the pack.
To your list, I would add Much Ado About Nothing, East-West, Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, Hamlet ,Sense and Sensibility, Love Labour´s Lost, Killing me Softly and As you Like in the masterpieces category. Harry Potter was nice, if too bombastic. Same with Nanny McPhee. From this decade, Cinderella is absolutely gorgeous and A United Kingdom is quite nice. Whisky Galore it´s merely ok.
Killing Me Softly is actually 2002 (and As You Like It 2006), so I'd actually consider that "modern Doyle" rather than "early Doyle" -- but I agree with you that in terms of quality, it's right up there with "early Doyle," which just goes to show you that it's Hollywood that's changed more than the composer. When given the opportunity (usually on foreign projects or non-blockbusters when he's more free of the temp track) Doyle can still put out a knockout score.
As for Thor, Jack Ryan, and the Apes, they are by far the worst scores in the entire Doyle´s career and still manages to beat Zimmer and most remote control composer´s at their own game.
True, but still a bit depressing compared to what we know he could have done if unshackled.
I haven´t heard Into the West or Shipwrecked (nor Mrs Winterbourne, for that matter) Are they any good?
Winterbourne is very good, Into the West is a gorgeous hidden gem. The entire album is actually available on YouTube, starting here:
Shipwrecked is actually my least favorite "early Doyle" score; rather repetitive and I often get bored with it even though it's a short album. It's certainly good, but not great on the level of all the amazing scores getting written before (Henry V) and after it.
Yavar, from your list of awesome debut scores, the only one I haven´t listen to is Scott's A Study in Terror. Will try to do and share my impressions with you.
Thank you for letting me know about the full Into the West score in youtube. Listened to it last night, you were right, it´s amazing.
Yavar, from your list of awesome debut scores, the only one I haven´t listen to is Scott's A Study in Terror. Will try to do and share my impressions with you.
Here's a sample from a neat Sherlock Holmes (re-recording) compilation that Varese did:
The original film recording of this has apparently only ever been released on LP; the CD that came out on John Scott's own JOS Records label a decade or more ago was itself a full new re-recording of the score.
Thank you for letting me know about the full Into the West score in youtube. Listened to it last night, you were right, it´s amazing.
Glad you agree! Now I just hope Intrada will see fit to expand the brief old score album, as I believe it is Disney-owned.
