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 Posted:   Jul 15, 2017 - 4:33 PM   
 By:   fuzzydunlop   (Member)

I really don't mean to be silly; I genuinely want to know. Zimmer's been very busy on tour for the past few months...and it's always dubious when you see his name in the credits anyway (he loves to outsource to his proteges). I'd venture to guess he was only involved at arm's length, but perhaps someone here knows details?

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2017 - 4:42 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Ugh...

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2017 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

For a moment, I thought you were referring to the 1958 version which was score by Malcolm Arnold.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2017 - 5:19 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

...Maurice Jarre did WEEKEND AT DUNKIRK!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2017 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

Mayhap someone can answer this question?

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2017 - 7:32 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

The breakdown tends to appear here at some point after the score has actually been released...

http://hans-zimmer.com/index.php?rub=disco&id=1576

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2017 - 2:14 AM   
 By:   babbelballetje   (Member)

Danny Elfman?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2017 - 4:47 AM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

I believe it was the same team that has done all his other scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2017 - 7:20 AM   
 By:   amatalqa   (Member)

The score was already written before he went on tour. A friend of mine had already seen a rough cut of the film several months ago and it had Hans' score. A presumptuous question. Hans writes suites for his films before the whole thing is finished, then they modify to fit the picture.

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2017 - 7:43 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

The score was already written before he went on tour. A friend of mine had already seen a rough cut of the film several months ago and it had Hans' score. A presumptuous question. Hans writes suites for his films before the whole thing is finished, then they modify to fit the picture.

The paint squad?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2017 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   fuzzydunlop   (Member)

The score was already written before he went on tour. A friend of mine had already seen a rough cut of the film several months ago and it had Hans' score. A presumptuous question. Hans writes suites for his films before the whole thing is finished, then they modify to fit the picture.

Actually, I feel like this brings up even more valid follow-up questions. Such as, if a composer creates only suites based on his "impressions" of the finished film and is not actually involved in the hard work and tedium of matching cues up with the filmed images, should he be considered the key composer?

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2017 - 2:34 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

The score was already written before he went on tour. A friend of mine had already seen a rough cut of the film several months ago and it had Hans' score. A presumptuous question. Hans writes suites for his films before the whole thing is finished, then they modify to fit the picture.

Actually, I feel like this brings up even more valid follow-up questions. Such as, if a composer creates only suites based on his "impressions" of the finished film and is not actually involved in the hard work and tedium of matching cues up with the filmed images, should he be considered the key composer?


Yes.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2017 - 2:45 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Well, I'm no post-2000 Zimmer lover, but lots of film composers have worked in this way in the past.
I remember Joe Dante saying that Pino Donaggio would send him music cues based on the script or scene descriptions (they both only communicated via interpreter in different countries) and he would cut and edit them accordingly.
I may be misremembering, but I vaguely recall Ennio doing this also.
I'm sure it's been done plenty before.
Having a pre selected team to do this these days seems the natural progression.

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2017 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

In this day and age of insane deadlines, last minute edits, and aggressive release dates, no film composer goes it alone. The illusion of the solitary genius pouring out gems of brilliance is a romanticized notion. In fact, even in the concert world, composer's have help whether it's assistants for music prep and proof, conductor's input, artistic directors, etc. Everyone has a team these days.




 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2017 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

With the arrival of digital editing, this has become routine actually.

In the days when orchestras were on tap, it still wasn't easy, you had to cut and mostly reperform your music for new edits. Some composers (Rozsa and Tiomkin particularly) incorporated deletable repeat bars in the scores to allow for this.

Now, the constant use of drones and drum ostinatos means fine-cutting is easy, especially with layering so easy too. But in this, content is subserviated to technical necessity, and the new style was devised to make it easy to edit. That's not an artistic decision. It's done purely to save time and money, and effort.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2017 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Danny Elfman?

Bwahahaha!

We all know Danny Elfman doesn't write his own music. How could he write somebody else's?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2017 - 3:32 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Actually, I feel like this brings up even more valid follow-up questions. Such as, if a composer creates only suites based on his "impressions" of the finished film and is not actually involved in the hard work and tedium of matching cues up with the filmed images, should he be considered the key composer?

You bring up a good point. I propose Ennio Morricone did not in fact compose The Good, The Bad & The Ugly. Ennio Morricone did not compose a fair number of Ennio Morricone scores for that matter. Dude's been getting way too much credit all these years.

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2017 - 4:09 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

if a composer creates only suites based on his "impressions" of the finished film and is not actually involved in the hard work and tedium of matching cues up with the filmed images, should he be considered the key composer?

Are we now judging the value of music by degree of difficulty?

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2017 - 4:12 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I am Spartacus!

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2017 - 4:27 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

What came first - the cuckoo or the cro's nest?

 
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