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 Posted:   Jul 21, 2017 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

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"Why is the Rosenman thing called a pyramid?"


THEY ARE BOTH relics from an earlier epoch

".... If I tried to fastfoward every time that damned motif is used I'd probably miss half of the score."

WRONG! You would miss 95 percent of the score!

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2017 - 3:24 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)


"Fantastic Voyage" was loaded with them! As part of the cue and the endings."



Jeff Bond is, at this very moment , having a severe crisis of confidence

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2017 - 3:29 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I've found tone pyramids in other scores, too. Oddly enough, of all places, I found it in a Mark Snow score -- done just like Rosenman did 'em. That was weird.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2017 - 5:01 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

If Horner had used that danger motif way, way more sparingly, it wouldn't have been a big deal but he overused it so much it took away from earlier uses.

Take this scene which was a gripping emotional death scene -- now all I hear is the danger motif signaling Khan over and over and over again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAgVzK_UmoU



Rosenman was just as guilty if not moreso. Aside from the pyramid ending, he had his own danger motif, that dun-dun-dundun! that popped up in every single motherf*cking thing I've heard from him smile

Plus the singing.. MoooorDoooooorrrr ... RoboCaaaahhhppp! Good Lord, the singing !

No, that torture that is Rosenman is in a class of Hell all by itself wink

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2017 - 5:06 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

If Horner had used that danger motif way, way more sparingly, it wouldn't have been a big deal but he overused it so much it took away from earlier uses.





.....that torture that is Rosenman is in a class of Hell all by itself wink



written on the gates of Heck:

"Musique de Leonard Rosenman"

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2017 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

I just flat out can't stand it. It is way more pervasive than Horners much hated "danger motif" ever was. It is used in virtually everyone of his films and it sounds so impossibly dated. That is the main if not only reason I don't have any of his scores save Star Trek IV. If I tried to fastfoward every time that damned motif is used I'd probably miss half of the score.

You know, I never even noticed the "danger motif" as a thing. (Anytime I think of it, I think of Land Before Time.) There are lots of Hornerisms that stand out way more. That "dum dum, dum dum... dum dum dum" thing that he does at the beginning of Genesis Countdown and in Brainstorm and The Rocketeer for example. We used to call that "James' Theme".

Why is the Rosenman thing called a pyramid?



I guess cause it starts at the bottom and then seems to rise to another height. Like a "building upward" so to speak. I picture ancient Egyptians layering flat rocks with musical notes painted on them.

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2017 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   Jeff Eldridge   (Member)

From The Art of Film Music by George Burt:

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2017 - 11:30 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Lenny rocks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3J9WXrqfb8

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2017 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   TominAtl   (Member)

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"Why is the Rosenman thing called a pyramid?"


THEY ARE BOTH relics from an earlier epoch

".... If I tried to fastfoward every time that damned motif is used I'd probably miss half of the score."

WRONG! You would miss 95 percent of the score!


I was being kind. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2017 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Oh yeah, right there at the end:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtgnuJkP484


And once again at the end:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx054gt7VEM


Yeah, I think he's just signing his name.


xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-Man!!!!!!!!!!!
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-en
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-Rose
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-nard
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-Leh
xxxxxxxxxxxx-By
Music

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2017 - 8:52 PM   
 By:   nerfTractor   (Member)

Johnny did it better, in the brass and then in the winds... https://youtu.be/y1vXyihzjlU

 
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