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 Posted:   Jun 16, 2018 - 3:44 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Still my favorite score of the last years. Ticks all the boxes of my score criteria.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2018 - 5:28 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Anyone else think that if Disney had released this in December 2018, it would have made a stack of money?

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2018 - 5:49 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Anyone else think that if Disney had released this in December 2018, it would have made a stack of money?

It would have made more than now.

I also believe that the all too public discussion about the original directors being replaced hurt the reception.

Not that general audiences care one bit about the production history of a film. But "Solo" simply had no chance of being discovered as the film it was, it was weighed down by being "in trouble", a "disaster waiting to happen".

In a way, it suffered the fate of "John Carter".

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2018 - 6:32 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

You all need to stop making excuses for it's poor reception. The audience wasn't interested in the film and it didn't have good word of mouth. Simple as that.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2018 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I'm with solium. I don't think people in general knew about or cared that the directors were fired. Coming so soon after "The Last Jedi" probably hurt a bit, yes, but didn't make the difference.

I just don't think people felt this was a movie they had to see. The Han Solo they love is inextricably linked to Harrison Ford, the stakes of the story weren't apparent from the commercials (and for better or worse were small for a "Star Wars" film), and the imagery they showed us was Chewie flying the Millennium Falcon being chased by TIE fighters… again.

I liked the movie, and so did my friends who saw it. But if you're going to get people to theaters, you have to tell them why it's a must-see, and nothing about this felt "must" enough.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2018 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   danbeck   (Member)

I'm with solium. I don't think people in general knew about or cared that the directors were fired. Coming so soon after "The Last Jedi" probably hurt a bit, yes, but didn't make the difference.

I just don't think people felt this was a movie they had to see. The Han Solo they love is inextricably linked to Harrison Ford, the stakes of the story weren't apparent from the commercials (and for better or worse were small for a "Star Wars" film), and the imagery they showed us was Chewie flying the Millennium Falcon being chased by TIE fighters… again.

I liked the movie, and so did my friends who saw it. But if you're going to get people to theaters, you have to tell them why it's a must-see, and nothing about this felt "must" enough.


I agree. It’s the first Star Wars film I did not saw in the theatre (the original trilogy I watched originally on tv - video but latter on reprisals in the cinema and the “special editions”). The trailers really did nothing for me. It is not that I dislike Star Wars, in fact I liked Last Jedi, Force Awakens and Rogue One, it is just that it feels unnecessary and maybe I’m a bit tired of these spin offs.

In retrospect the series has two great movies (Star Wars and Empire), and the rest varies from really bad (Episode I, Episode II), tolerable but disappointing (Episode III, Return of the Jedi) and good but not great (Force Awakens [too much a rerash of Star Wars], Last Jedi). But maybe the bad prequels that in some ways spoiled the origin story of the original trilogy should be a sign that sometimes it is preferable to imagine the origin story of your favorite characters than trying to show it and overexposed them.

I’ll probably see Solo in streaming and, depending on the movie, it may became the first Star Wars I will not acquire in Blu-Ray.

The score is very good, however. Certainly much better than Rogue One.

 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2018 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   Tom Guernsey   (Member)

Having listened to his innumerable times and loved it (only Powell’s Prussian Requiem replacing it on near permanent rotation) is it terribly trashy to ask if there’s any word of Disney putting up an FYC version online as has been the case for all of the recent Star Wars scores and maybe five is a few more minutes of Powell’s terrific scoring?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2018 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   MikeyKW   (Member)

Not until awards season, early in 2019, if at all. By that time Solo will be on home video, and with the perceived failure of the film I don't expect Disney to push nominations very hard. They'll likely be focussed on the Mary Poppins sequel.

Having listened to his innumerable times and loved it (only Powell’s Prussian Requiem replacing it on near permanent rotation) is it terribly trashy to ask if there’s any word of Disney putting up an FYC version online as has been the case for all of the recent Star Wars scores and maybe five is a few more minutes of Powell’s terrific scoring?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2018 - 5:47 PM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

I do wish that cue with the Imperial March had made it to the soundtrack. Would have been a perfect substitute for “Chicken in the Pot”. Seriously... Chicken in the Pot???

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2018 - 1:26 PM   
 By:   Tom Guernsey   (Member)

Not until awards season, early in 2019, if at all. By that time Solo will be on home video, and with the perceived failure of the film I don't expect Disney to push nominations very hard. They'll likely be focussed on the Mary Poppins sequel.

That makes sense. I didn't really tie together the Christmas release date of the other recent Star Wars films with awards season... shame, it would be good to hear a few odds and ends of extras. Mind you, there wasn't a great deal that was in the film that wasn't on album. And the music seemed to play largely without being unduly edited in the film from what I recall (from admittedly only one viewing of the film). Certainly seemed less edited up than JW's Star Wars scores of late.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2018 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I do wish that cue with the Imperial March had made it to the soundtrack.

Was that piece more than the brief snippet heard in the film? I'll admit, in the theater I saw the movie in at least, it was buried under sound effects, but I wondered if that was simply a re-use of a piece from the "Rebels" TV series that you can hear on its own on this page:

https://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/star-wars-rebels-empire-day-episode-guide

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2018 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

First off, I LOVED Solo, both score and film. I'm sure I don't listen to enough Powell, but what I listen to I listen to a lot.

So yesterday I started listening to James Horner's Living in the Age of Airplanes. I think if Mr. Horner was still with us there would be a good bet he would have scored Solo and it would have still sounded similar. I have nothing concrete to back that up. Just a feeling.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2018 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

I do wish that cue with the Imperial March had made it to the soundtrack.

Was that piece more than the brief snippet heard in the film? I'll admit, in the theater I saw the movie in at least, it was buried under sound effects, but I wondered if that was simply a re-use of a piece from the "Rebels" TV series that you can hear on its own on this page:

https://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/star-wars-rebels-empire-day-episode-guide


It's also available to own on one of the Rebels albums - I think season 1 (download only, alas).

I could barely make it out in the movie as well, but it sounded similar to the Rebels version.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2018 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

First off, I LOVED Solo, both score and film. I'm sure I don't listen to enough Powell, but what I listen to I listen to a lot.

So yesterday I started listening to James Horner's Living in the Age of Airplanes. I think if Mr. Horner was still with us there would be a good bet he would have scored Solo and it would have still sounded similar. I have nothing concrete to back that up. Just a feeling.


I disagree, though any one of us - if given half a day - could cobble together a near-exact replica of what a Horner Solo score would have sounded like from the oft-used shards of his Rocketeer/Trek II exclamations, along with the modern Avatar action music that sounded nothing like his style.

I'm not nuts about Powell's super cheap-sounding percussion in this score, and a mix that really de-emphasizes the horns, but the score is fun as hell in ways that Horner hadn't touched since Zorro.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2018 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

I do wish that cue with the Imperial March had made it to the soundtrack.

Was that piece more than the brief snippet heard in the film? I'll admit, in the theater I saw the movie in at least, it was buried under sound effects, but I wondered if that was simply a re-use of a piece from the "Rebels" TV series that you can hear on its own on this page:

https://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/star-wars-rebels-empire-day-episode-guide


It's also available to own on one of the Rebels albums - I think season 1 (download only, alas).

I could barely make it out in the movie as well, but it sounded similar to the Rebels version.[/

Anyone happen know which cue from Rebels? Would love to compare it and add it to the Solo if poss.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2018 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)


I'm not nuts about Powell's super cheap-sounding percussion in this score, and a mix that really de-emphasizes the horns, but the score is fun as hell in ways that Horner hadn't touched since Zorro.


Agreed! If only his mix could have been as uninhibited and creative as his writing, but still a hell of a score.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2018 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Anyone happen know which cue from Rebels? Would love to compare it and add it to the Solo if poss.

https://open.spotify.com/track/4k7Zj0saZfNCheWiM9Zmw7

Glory of the Empire.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2018 - 7:56 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

First off, I LOVED Solo, both score and film. I'm sure I don't listen to enough Powell, but what I listen to I listen to a lot.

So yesterday I started listening to James Horner's Living in the Age of Airplanes. I think if Mr. Horner was still with us there would be a good bet he would have scored Solo and it would have still sounded similar. I have nothing concrete to back that up. Just a feeling.


I disagree, though any one of us - if given half a day - could cobble together a near-exact replica of what a Horner Solo score would have sounded like from the oft-used shards of his Rocketeer/Trek II exclamations, along with the modern Avatar action music that sounded nothing like his style.

I'm not nuts about Powell's super cheap-sounding percussion in this score, and a mix that really de-emphasizes the horns, but the score is fun as hell in ways that Horner hadn't touched since Zorro.


Fair enough response and wouldn't necessarily disagree. Though I think good potions of Solo are excellent, rich with themes and texture. The action music is lacking however. Still it remains in constant rotation for me.

 
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