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 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


Interesting video explanation:

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   Captain Cold   (Member)

Interesting video explanation:



Nothing special about Dunkirk. Just more laziness on Zimmer's part.

Sorry Mr Lukas

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Interesting video explanation:



Nothing special about Dunkirk. Just more laziness on Zimmer's part.

Sorry Mr Lukas



Actually it's original, innovative and quite inspired.

Sorry, Mr. Cold.


Apparently no single positive mention of Dunkirk can go unchallenged around here.

Interesting video. I've been hearing this in all kinds of music for years and not realized it.

I guess this track would also qualify as a shepard tone? Rising and rising without relief.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Regardless if I like it or not, and I don't know yet, it's always interesting learning something new. And the science behind this approach is new to me. While the technique may have artistic value, not sure it works for an entire film. Perhaps its something best left for a signature sequence.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   Captain Cold   (Member)

"Actually it's original, innovative and quite inspired."

"Sorry, Mr. Cold."

Actually that is your opinion on Dunkirk which unlike previous Zimmer scores does not stand out like Interstellar or Inception.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Wow, that's crazy! Cerebral.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 1:40 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Brilliant concept in its simplicity, and worked wonders in the film! It's amazing how often simplicity is confused for laziness, particularly here...

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Brilliant concept in its simplicity, and worked wonders in the film! It's amazing how often simplicity is confused for laziness, particularly here...

It was a nightmare in the film at times, but plays better as a moodscape album or whatever.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   Pedestrian Wolf   (Member)

Brilliant concept in its simplicity, and worked wonders in the film! It's amazing how often simplicity is confused for laziness, particularly here...

It was a nightmare in the film at times, but plays better as a moodscape album or whatever.


I just have this image in my head now of Hans Zimmer playing Mario 64, getting stuck in Bowser's Infinite Staircase, then thinking, "Hey, hey, what if we ... what if we stretched this out for a whole movie!"

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I read Nolan talking about using this approach originally with David Julyan in The Prestige. At least I think I've got that right, I'm too lazy to go check my facts (about the Shepard tone or the composer's name) on the internet.

This post is an example of laziness. Film scoring is not, ANY film scoring is not, even if you don't care for the results.

Apparently needed to clear that up. You're welcome.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 8:37 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

I just have this image in my head now of Hans Zimmer playing Mario 64, getting stuck in Bowser's Infinite Staircase, then thinking, "Hey, hey, what if we ... what if we stretched this out for a whole movie!"

As an actual fan of music, I'll take optimism any day of the week. I try to enjoy my hobbies.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 8:55 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


Nothing special about Dunkirk. Just more laziness on Zimmer's part.

Sorry Mr Lukas


Don't be sorry to me! I didn't write it!

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2017 - 2:45 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

Yes, interesting video! I posted it earlier in the Dunkirk-thread and we have been talking about it there as well.

I must admit I'm a bit surprised the -- what's the word? -- condescending comment this score and Zimmer's use of this technique gets. (Perhaps I shouldn't be.)

The use of the Shepard glissando isn't any different than the use of a ostinato or a dissonant or any other compositorial device to gain a certain effect.

The technique is clever and cleverly used in the score. As the video explains, Zimmer is not the first to use it. Ligeti uses it in Etude No. 9. It's in Under the skin, and I'm sure there are cases where other composers used it, perhaps even Chris Young or Goldsmith.

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2017 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Mouse insurrection!

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2017 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Audio treadmill. Hi-lo, hi-lo . . . it's off to work we go . . .

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2017 - 12:21 PM   
 By:   Captain Cold   (Member)


Nothing special about Dunkirk. Just more laziness on Zimmer's part.

Sorry Mr Lukas


Don't be sorry to me! I didn't write it!

Lukas



Peace and Love Mr Lukas.

 
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