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Aug 24, 2017 - 7:20 PM
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GoblinScore
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I respect what you wrote & your opinion Burnie, but have to disagree. The film tracks vs. album are wildly different experiences, and I've lived with both since 89'. As I remembered, the film cues are just a wholly different animal, and the album, overall more....album friendly. The film cues are, still, nearly 30 years later, as devastatingly powerful on cd as it is in the film. I always held the album as a favorite, but never really appreciated the care put into that sequence, ending with the beginning, for one example. I also love the 'Three O' Clock High' colors that peek through more in the film cues. I'm elated to have this set, RDL did a great job as always with his liner notes, classy product all around. Highly rec'd!!
-Sean
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Got mine today and BOTH signatures were there! Wasn't expecting that. Thanks guys for this wonderful release!!
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Just an observation. I was intrigued by how Sean (Goblinscore) responded to Burnie (BlindDoc), saying: I respect what you wrote & your opinion Burnie, but have to disagree. The film tracks vs. album are wildly different experiences....
So I go up to Burnie's comments and my general impression comes from this section: TD didn't do THAT many changes for the album versions...but if you compare the two versions, it's two entirely different experiences.
I'm sure there are nuances, but it seems like you both said essentially the same thing, so who's disagreeing?! 
I'm interested in all this because I haven't bought this new edition, which I nevertheless think is a great release. I picked up the original album a while ago and haven't spent much time with it, which says that an expansion may not be up my alley. Especially since I was no great fan of the film back in the day (saw it on release on video, and just don't care for Apocalypse, Whoops! stories).
Anyway don't want to dis this at all, and so am very interested in what people say. And that CD cover art is awfully tempting....
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Aw heck, never mind! You all convinced me, as did some listening to the original album, along with Buysoundtrax's Labor Day sale - I picked up this one, Shy People and Manfredini's TimeMaster, and got $17 off all three. Such a deal! That's Shy People for nothing flat.
I know some people have had issues ordering from BuySoundtrax, but it's always been fine for me so I'm happy to support all the labels direct.
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Your quite right Sean, I missed our contradictions there, too!
MM is a big deal for me, an old favorite. I always wanted these film tracks (even though much tends to the droney side, and even though it sounds like a cleaned up isolated score track ) because they really are integral, in my mind, to the film. And, why do we buy this stuff anyway (sometimes...)? To relieve the film! The album is much more of a stable listrn, but almost done in Williams-style concert reconfiguration. I can't even point to "oh great THIS unreleased cue is on here!" It's just a general, overall mood difference.
My advice - get the set (I've been playing it all week ) & definitely see the film, or see it again.
I hope you do, and share your thoughts.
Peace,
Sean A
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....and Shy People, another childhood fave of mine (guess I dated myself), also excellent.
Good choices SN, I certainly hope you enjoy even half as much as I do!
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Okay, Sean A - so tell me, if you can - how much of an upgrade is the recently released Blu Ray? I'm going back and forth between that and just watching it on Amazon video rental, but it's standard def, and though I don't have a great system, actually a kind of small TV, standard can sometimes harm the film.
Advice?
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I lived with the old VHS of Mile forever...then the MGM dvd.....then the semi-recent Kino Blu, the U.S. disc, not the European one. It's never looked stellar anywhere, but naturally the Blu has moments of greatness, visually & print quality wise. The first shot of Harry at night playing trombone was always heavily grainy, which frightened me at first glance on Blu - but it straightens out. Those are the vehicles I've had for this film & obviously the blu, Kino at least, is the strongest option. Again, low budget and probably cheaper film stock will always work against this title. Personally the dark & occasional grain helps this tale.
My stance is always HD, but in this case it won't be a revelatory upgrade, but I feel everyone should own this film regardless.
My 5 cent review, there ya go 
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Thanks, that's helpful, Seanblin. I'll mull and then decide!
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they really need to do a Risky Business expanded score.
The official release doesn't have the actual movie versions.
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Sep 4, 2017 - 5:10 AM
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BlindDoc
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Just an observation. I was intrigued by how Sean (Goblinscore) responded to Burnie (BlindDoc), saying: I respect what you wrote & your opinion Burnie, but have to disagree. The film tracks vs. album are wildly different experiences....
So I go up to Burnie's comments and my general impression comes from this section: TD didn't do THAT many changes for the album versions...but if you compare the two versions, it's two entirely different experiences.
I'm sure there are nuances, but it seems like you both said essentially the same thing, so who's disagreeing?!
I'm interested in all this because I haven't bought this new edition, which I nevertheless think is a great release. I picked up the original album a while ago and haven't spent much time with it, which says that an expansion may not be up my alley. Especially since I was no great fan of the film back in the day (saw it on release on video, and just don't care for Apocalypse, Whoops! stories).
Anyway don't want to dis this at all, and so am very interested in what people say. And that CD cover art is awfully tempting....
Hi Goblin Score and Sean,
You're right - i meant pretty much the same thing as Goblin Score was pointing out. Only i was perhaps a bit explaining it in a strange way. What i meant was that while TD didn't actually alter much of the material for the album version (except for a few omissions, additions and relatively minor alterations), BUT the listening experience of the film version is a completely different one. Much more ominous, much more kinetic and suspenseful, while the album version could be the score to a romantic drama (without nuclear holocaust and stuff :-). A prime example how re-sequencing, re-editing and re-mixing can create a wholly different atmosphere - even when working with the same source material.
I think this release is a prime example how different film versions and album versions of one score can be - and how important it can be to release both versions in one package.
It's all good
Best,
Burnie
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Aside from disc 1 being read without tracks as a generic audio cd, which I haven't had time to do for Grace note, so I backed out.....no. Cd 2 was fine & titled.
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