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 Posted:   Aug 4, 2017 - 3:54 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

The Directors Cut to celebrate the 35th anniversary of the film.

http://www.treknews.net/2017/07/20/star-trek-ii-wrath-of-khan-35-anniversary/

I'm pretty much there.

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2017 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

It's the directors cut, I'm out. Enjoy though, I'm jealous!

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2017 - 4:11 PM   
 By:   losher22   (Member)

Already bought my ticket! Hell yeah!

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2017 - 5:11 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Bought my ticket. Can't wait to see this in the big screen. The director's cut is not a dealbreaker for me -- I have never seen this film on the big screen before.

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2017 - 10:13 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

I prefer the original theatrical cut to the director's edition, but just seeing this film on the large screen again is worthwhile.

I saw the original for the 30th anniversary in a small NYC revival theater. A spliced, cruddy 35mm print. HEAVEN. So, this will be a fun alternate.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2017 - 11:35 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

I actually do prefer the DC now, though I love any version of this film. And I don't think the DC has ever been seen in theaters, though the "regular" version (or versions, I should say) have played not just in wide release in '82, but in numerous other screenings here and there over the years - I last saw it in a theater less than two years ago, IIRC (I'll have to check the date). But I'm still really excited about this (and for Close Encounters of the Third Kind, which I've never seen theatrically at all before, in any version).

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2017 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Looks like it's only playing at Theaters in geographically undesirable sections of town in my area, so I'll pass. If it was at the Theater down the street from my house, I'd definitely attend!

I remember seeing it on the Big Screen on First Run.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2017 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I saw the film on video about two years ago, my first viewing since I watched it on its initial release, in a downtown San Francisco theater. This latest viewing was on a much smaller screen of course. But on the plus side, the image wasn't obscured by clouds of marijuana smoke.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2017 - 8:30 PM   
 By:   losher22   (Member)

Just saw the Fathom Events showing around here, and though it was utterly glorious and my first time seeing STII on the big screen, it was not the director's cut. It was the cut I've seen dozens of times since my childhood. Which is not to say I'm disappointed, just wanted to point that out.

I just ordered the DC Blu-Ray, though, regardless. What're the differences aside from audio/visual cleanup? Extra footage? Interviews or the like?

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2017 - 9:37 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Just saw the Fathom Events showing around here, and though it was utterly glorious and my first time seeing STII on the big screen,

I'm glad to hear that. On another forum someone was talking crap about these Fathom Events screenings -- that they were lousy quality because they were streamed in instead of actual film prints, something like that. Looking forward to seeing it on Wednesday -- my first time with this one in theaters, too.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2017 - 10:06 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Just saw the Fathom Events showing around here, and though it was utterly glorious and my first time seeing STII on the big screen, it was not the director's cut. It was the cut I've seen dozens of times since my childhood. Which is not to say I'm disappointed, just wanted to point that out.

I just ordered the DC Blu-Ray, though, regardless. What're the differences aside from audio/visual cleanup? Extra footage? Interviews or the like?


Really? I went to the event and it WAS the Director's Cut. We all should have seen the same thing. Especially since "Fathom Events beams live and pre-recorded events via satellite to audiences in cinemas via our digital broadcast network." Not knowing your age, is it possible you were brought up on the Directors Cut? That's been available on DVD since 2002.

The DC has scenes with Scotty's nephew during the inspection, more Doohan reacting to his death in Sick Bay with follow up discussion between Bones and Kir, some additional dialog at Regula 1 between Drs. Marcus and staff, Kirk and Spock climbing up the access tube after beaming back from Regula (the crappy "that young man, he's my son" "Faaaaascinating" dialog is gone making the scene pointless), and some added lines from Saavik and Spock on the bridge about discussing the human. Really, none of these added bits contribute much to the film beyond running time. Scotty's grief is the richest addition. The film, though, was perfect as released in 1982.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2017 - 10:36 PM   
 By:   Sampo   (Member)

Just saw the Fathom Events showing around here, and though it was utterly glorious and my first time seeing STII on the big screen,

I'm glad to hear that. On another forum someone was talking crap about these Fathom Events screenings -- that they were lousy quality because they were streamed in instead of actual film prints, something like that. Looking forward to seeing it on Wednesday -- my first time with this one in theaters, too.


I've been to many fathom screenings & my big complaint is not the streaming, but that there's almost always some kind of mishap where the picture goes out, often during the picture. Getting the theater staff to get on it & correct it is infuriating & it often seems like they're disinterested or don't know what to do. They need better crisis management at the theaters that do the screenings.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 4:53 AM   
 By:   losher22   (Member)

Really? I went to the event and it WAS the Director's Cut. We all should have seen the same thing. Especially since "Fathom Events beams live and pre-recorded events via satellite to audiences in cinemas via our digital broadcast network." Not knowing your age, is it possible you were brought up on the Directors Cut? That's been available on DVD since 2002.

Wow, Scott, I think you're right. I was born in 1979. I watched the film on VHS in my childhood, but didn't start really committing everything to permanent memory until I later bought it on DVD. I'm intimately familiar with all the scenes you mention, so I guess what I saw last night WAS the Director's Cut after all. Sorry to misinform you and everyone else!!!

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

Just saw the Fathom Events showing around here, and though it was utterly glorious and my first time seeing STII on the big screen, it was not the director's cut. It was the cut I've seen dozens of times since my childhood. Which is not to say I'm disappointed, just wanted to point that out.

I just ordered the DC Blu-Ray, though, regardless. What're the differences aside from audio/visual cleanup? Extra footage? Interviews or the like?


Really? I went to the event and it WAS the Director's Cut. We all should have seen the same thing. Especially since "Fathom Events beams live and pre-recorded events via satellite to audiences in cinemas via our digital broadcast network." Not knowing your age, is it possible you were brought up on the Directors Cut? That's been available on DVD since 2002.

The DC has scenes with Scotty's nephew during the inspection, more Doohan reacting to his death in Sick Bay with follow up discussion between Bones and Kir, some additional dialog at Regula 1 between Drs. Marcus and staff, Kirk and Spock climbing up the access tube after beaming back from Regula (the crappy "that young man, he's my son" "Faaaaascinating" dialog is gone making the scene pointless), and some added lines from Saavik and Spock on the bridge about discussing the human. Really, none of these added bits contribute much to the film beyond running time. Scotty's grief is the richest addition. The film, though, was perfect as released in 1982.


It was the director's cut shown at the screening I went to. It was actually my first time watching the director's cut, so a movie that I normally know like the back of my hand had some extra bits here and there I wasn't expecting. There is nothing wrong about any of the added scenes (although some of the nephew's added lines are pretty corny), but I also don't think they add anything. I will stick with the theatrical release.

It was amazing seeing the film on the big screen, and I enjoyed the interview with William Shatner beforehand. Aside from telling a story that happened during Star Trek III (although it was a great anecdote) he had a pretty detailed memory of the filming of Wrath of Khan. Most of the audience I saw it with seemed to disagree with Shatner declaring Star Trek V the best Star Trek film.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

I've been to many fathom screenings & my big complaint is not the streaming, but that there's almost always some kind of mishap where the picture goes out, often during the picture. Getting the theater staff to get on it & correct it is infuriating & it often seems like they're disinterested or don't know what to do. They need better crisis management at the theaters that do the screenings.

I've been to dozens of Fathom screenings and have never had this happen. I don't think anyone's to blame but the staff at your local theater.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

The added scenes were first seen on the ABC broadcast run in the 80's to give views something extra those days (and to pad out running times when necessary). They really do very little to enrich the already great film. But I always apprecited the extra dimension it gave Scotty. Even though he was always wrong about Cadet Preston staying at his post when everyone else ran. He is VERY clearly seen running to another cadet to save his life. Maybe he ran right tback to his post. smile

Most of the audience I saw it with seemed to disagree with Shatner declaring Star Trek V the best Star Trek film.

big grin I guess they all missed his obvious sarcasm....Shatner is notorious for his sense of humor, which can range from corny to very deadpan. But watching it, it was obvious to me his tongue was firmly in his cheek.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Really? I went to the event and it WAS the Director's Cut. We all should have seen the same thing. Especially since "Fathom Events beams live and pre-recorded events via satellite to audiences in cinemas via our digital broadcast network." Not knowing your age, is it possible you were brought up on the Directors Cut? That's been available on DVD since 2002.

Wow, Scott, I think you're right. I was born in 1979. I watched the film on VHS in my childhood, but didn't start really committing everything to permanent memory until I later bought it on DVD. I'm intimately familiar with all the scenes you mention, so I guess what I saw last night WAS the Director's Cut after all. Sorry to misinform you and everyone else!!!


No worries! So you'd probably pop in the theatrical cut and think stuff was missing. That's happened to me with a few movies I caught up with on tape but was used to extended tevevlsion airings. Like Beyond the Poseidon Adventure.

 
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