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 Posted:   Sep 1, 2017 - 10:33 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Hey guys, I've been doing some research and I think it's the Director's Cut of the film being shown, but I could be wrong.


According to the Hollywood Reporter:

"The version that is being rereleased theatrically is the final 1997 director's cut, which is a re-edit of the 1977 version as well as some elements from the 1980 special edition, although it omits scenes inside the mothership, which Spielberg introduced in the 1980 version but later decided were a mistake."

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2017 - 6:52 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Well my mom and I had the best time yesterday seeing CLOSE ENCOUNTERS on the big screen! The sound was incredible in the Dolby Cinema Theater! There were speakers on the ceiling which made it feel like we were in the movie. This film is my third favorite of all time, right behind RAIDERS and FURY ROAD! I can't wait for the Blu-ray release later this month.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2017 - 1:33 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

"The version that is being rereleased theatrically is the final 1997 director's cut, which is a re-edit of the 1977 version as well as some elements from the 1980 special edition, although it omits scenes inside the mothership, which Spielberg introduced in the 1980 version but later decided were a mistake."


I recently watched this version of the film. It's a pretty good version. I totally agree with Spielberg's decision to remove the "mothership" footage. I only wish he'd kept in the "power station" scene; then it would have been the perfect hybrid of the original theatrical version and the Special Edition.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 12:29 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

CLOSE ENCOUNTERS' 4-day take is estimated at $2.3M at 901 sites.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 11:23 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

I'm glad to know Mr. Spielberg finally realized the mother ship interiors were a mistake. If he'd asked me, I would have told him from the get-go. As I wrote when he first announced his intentions, "I don't want to know the chemical composition of Peter Pan's fairy dust, I don't want to peek behind the Lone Ranger's mask, and I really don't want to see inside the mother ship."

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2017 - 3:37 AM   
 By:   Metryq   (Member)

And you don't mess around with Jim.

EDIT: In fiction, it is sometimes best to leave certain things to the imagination of the reader/viewer. Some people take it very seriously, though. I recommended Robert Sheckley's Immortality, Inc. to someone because it dovetailed with things we had been discussing. This person read all the way through the novel, then got irritated at me because it was fiction—which I had told her from the start. I guess she was desperately in need of scientific confirmation of life after death.

Even that book did not go "into the mothership." The fictional "afterlife" was merely a transitional stage to something else, of which the fictional scientists had no information. (Completely ignore the movie Freejack which is allegedly based on Immortality, Inc. There is no resemblance.)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2017 - 6:09 AM   
 By:   mulan98   (Member)

Very tempted if I can find a 70mm screening handy. That's how I first saw it in '77.

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2017 - 6:12 AM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

I'm glad to know Mr. Spielberg finally realized the mother ship interiors were a mistake. If he'd asked me, I would have told him from the get-go. As I wrote when he first announced his intentions, "I don't want to know the chemical composition of Peter Pan's fairy dust, I don't want to peek behind the Lone Ranger's mask, and I really don't want to see inside the mother ship."

The mothership wasn't a change Steven wanted to make in the first place. It was forced on him by Columbia as a marketing hook and requirement to receive financing to do his Cotopaxi sequence.

The '98 really is the definitive version and one even most diehard OUT nuts don't seem to have much of a problem with. Watching it back to back with the original version really highlights the flaws in the latter.

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2017 - 6:24 AM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

"The version that is being rereleased theatrically is the final 1997 director's cut, which is a re-edit of the 1977 version as well as some elements from the 1980 special edition, although it omits scenes inside the mothership, which Spielberg introduced in the 1980 version but later decided were a mistake."


I recently watched this version of the film. It's a pretty good version. I totally agree with Spielberg's decision to remove the "mothership" footage. I only wish he'd kept in the "power station" scene; then it would have been the perfect hybrid of the original theatrical version and the Special Edition.


The thing about the Power Station scene is its only notable for being deleted (just like Carl Weathers' dumb cameo). All information in it is not important and could have easily been conveyed to Roy over the phone (and indeed it is in the later cuts). It's just superfluous.

And besides, we get the Goofy Golf scene instead. Fair trade.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2017 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Cotopaxi? The volcano? I don't remember what scene you're referring to. I also can't keep track of the different cuts and what's in or not in them. If memory serves, though, I was disappointed when I no longer heard the line, "They can fly rings around the moon, but we're years ahead of them on the highway."

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2017 - 1:00 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Preston, here's what Wikipedia says:

SS Cotopaxi was a tramp steamer named after the Cotopaxi stratovolcano. She vanished in December 1925, while en route from Charleston, South Carolina, United States, to Havana, Cuba, with all hands....

In the 1980 Director's Cut of the 1977 film Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Cotopaxi is discovered,[9] located in the Gobi Desert, presumably set there by extraterrestrial forces. In a documentary on the making of the film, it is said that the model they used looked nothing like the actual vessel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Cotopaxi

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2017 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

I had to wait several days before seeing this, as I was first busy with DragonCon and then waylaid by con crud. I was finally well enough to go yesterday, though, without coughing and hacking all through it and ruining the experience for myself and others.

The movie is still wonderful, in any version. What a treat to finally see this in a theater, and looking so good.

While I understand Spielberg's (and others') feelings about wanting to retain some mystery and that it's better to not show the interior of the mothership, I think it's kind of a trivial thing when the movie is already showing the actual aliens themselves. But then, the title itself does seem to promise the actual face-to-face encounter, so...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2017 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I saw the film in one of Cinemark's "XD" theaters the other day. Except for some of the outdoor daylight shots, the film has a level of film grain to it that we rarely see in today's films. No one would mistake it for a modern digitally-shot film. They've done a good job of restoring the original multi-track sound though.

This was my first viewing of the 1997 Director's Cut/Collector's Edition. My recollection from one of the earlier editions was that it showed the line of red-uniformed astronauts marching into the mothership. But this cut only shows Roy being pulled out of the line and entering the ship alone, giving the impression that he is the only one to go with the extra-terrestrials. Does anyone else remember the rest of the astronauts entering the ship?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2017 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

Hey Bob...
Nope, trust me on this... they never went into the ship... that was the whole point of that scene; they chose NEARY to go, and that was why they "implanted" the vision of Devils Tower in the minds of "everyday people"... they didn't want government types... they wanted you and me!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2017 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Hey Bob...
Nope, trust me on this... they never went into the ship... that was the whole point of that scene; they chose NEARY to go, and that was why they "implanted" the vision of Devils Tower in the minds of "everyday people"... they didn't want government types... they wanted you and me!



Exactly, it was always Neary and only Neary.

BTW, I saw the film yesterday afternoon and it is still as wonderful as always, it moved me to tears. yep, it did.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2017 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

"The version that is being rereleased theatrically is the final 1997 director's cut, which is a re-edit of the 1977 version as well as some elements from the 1980 special edition, although it omits scenes inside the mothership, which Spielberg introduced in the 1980 version but later decided were a mistake."


I recently watched this version of the film. It's a pretty good version. I totally agree with Spielberg's decision to remove the "mothership" footage. I only wish he'd kept in the "power station" scene; then it would have been the perfect hybrid of the original theatrical version and the Special Edition.


The thing about the Power Station scene is its only notable for being deleted (just like Carl Weathers' dumb cameo). All information in it is not important and could have easily been conveyed to Roy over the phone (and indeed it is in the later cuts). It's just superfluous.

And besides, we get the Goofy Golf scene instead. Fair trade.



I guess all fans of CEotTK have their "ideal" version of the film. Maybe I like the power station scene because it was in the version I fell in love with and saw multiple times back in 1977. To be honest, I wouldn't mind having a blu-ray version including everything --- except the mystery-destroying "inside the mothership" footage --- including the scene on the airliner, and the (as far as I know) never-shown scene in the hotel with Balaban and Truffaut, just to see how the whole thing works...

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2017 - 6:18 PM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

Well I just got back, and I feel that this isn't going to win over a lot people who didn't like the 2007 transfer that much. As I said in that awful Blu-ray review thread, Vilmos Zsigmond's "look" is burned into that film. No transfer is going to undo it without doing major damage to the film itself.

That said, CE3K is truly a sight to see on the big screen.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2017 - 12:45 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Sean, thanks! I remember that scene well, it was very effective, but I never noticed the name on the ship.

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2017 - 6:33 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I saw the film in one of Cinemark's "XD" theaters the other day. Except for some of the outdoor daylight shots, the film has a level of film grain to it that we rarely see in today's films. No one would mistake it for a modern digitally-shot film. They've done a good job of restoring the original multi-track sound though.

This was my first viewing of the 1997 Director's Cut/Collector's Edition. My recollection from one of the earlier editions was that it showed the line of red-uniformed astronauts marching into the mothership. But this cut only shows Roy being pulled out of the line and entering the ship alone, giving the impression that he is the only one to go with the extra-terrestrials. Does anyone else remember the rest of the astronauts entering the ship?


In his diary, Bob Balaban was distracted by the lady astronaut with the hairdo - there's nothing like impressing the neighbors.

 
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