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Nov 1, 2017 - 10:35 AM
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dragon53
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WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 1
I, TONYA---red band trailer released for the biomovie about Olympic figure skater Tonya Harding starring Margot Robbie.
Trailer link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuDQOMICfr0
STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI---a new international poster hints that Luke Skywalker will cross over to the Dark Side.
BLADE RUNNER---Michael Deeley, co-producer of the original 1982 movie, commented on the disappointing box office of the sequel which he hasn't seen yet, “The picture is very long. It must have been cut-able and should have been. They can’t do better [box office] because they can’t play it more than three times a day because it’s just too long, which is of course self-indulgent at the very least, arrogant probably. It’s criminal.”
He also attributed the original film's disappointing box office to fellow producers Bud Yorkin and Jerry Perenchio, “The film didn’t catch fire for ten years so I couldn’t have made a remake or another version of it and I wouldn’t have wanted to anyway. One of the things that spelt doom straight away was when Perenchio decided that he wanted to release the picture quickly to get his money back quickly. That was ignorant and naive. The only time this picture could ever be released sensibly was in the late autumn or in the winter when you could have capitalised on award nominations. Instead, they decided to do it in summer, opposite another little known sci-fi movie – a picture called ET. I wouldn’t talk to Bud Yorkin or Perenchio or have anything to do with them for the rest of my life.”
BRETT RATNER---director Ratner (X-MEN: THE LAST STANDING, RUSH HOUR) is the latest Hollywood celebrity to be accused of sexual harassment. Six women, including Olivia Munn (X-MEN: APOCALYPSE) and Natasha Henstridge (SPECIES) came forth with accusations against Ratner. Munn said Ratner masturbated in front of her while eating shrimp cocktail in his trailer, "He walked out ... with his belly sticking out, no pants on, shrimp cocktail in one hand and he was furiously masturbating in the other. And before I literally could even figure out where to escape or where to look, he ejaculated." Henstridge said Ratner forced her to perform oral sex on him in his apartment when she was 19 years old, “He strong-armed me in a real way. He physically forced himself on me. At some point, I gave in and he did his thing.” Ratner's attorney denied the allegations.
Warner Bros. is reviewing its production deal with Ratner after the accusations were made.
WISDOM OF THE CROWD---CBS is "looking into" allegations by Playboy Playmate/actress Ariane Bellamar that Jeremy Piven sexually assaulting her on the set of ENTOURAGE and in the Playboy Mansion by tweeting, "Hey @jeremypiven! ‘Member when you cornered me in your trailer on the #Entourage set? ‘Member grabbing my boobies on the [deleted] without asking??" and, "‘Member when I tried to leave; you grabbed me by the ass, looked at yourself in the mirror, & said what a ‘beautiful couple’ we made?" Piven denied the accusations.
THE WALKING DEAD---Season 8's latest episode had 8.9 million viewers which is the lowest audience since a Season 2 episode which had 12.4 million viewers.
EXTREMELY WICKED, SHOCKINGLY EVIL AND VILE---Zac Efron and Lily Collins star in this biomovie about infamous serial killer Ted Bundy who confessed to murdering 30 women.
BLACK ADAM---Adam Sztykiel (UNDATEABLE) is in talks to write the script for the Dwayne Johnson movie.
THE ROMANOFFS---Amazon/Matthew Weiner (MAD MEN) eight episode anthology series about people who think they are descendants of the Russian royal family. Diane Lane, Aaron Eckhart, Isabella Hupert, Jack Huston, Marthe Keller, Corey Stoll and Christina Hendricks star.
THE X-FILES---Haley Joel Osment (THE SIXTH SENSE) will appear in an episode which focuses on the past of Walter Skinner.
VESTIGE---Mickey Rourke, Analeigh Tipton and Anne Heche star in this sci fi movie about a figure skater who must compete against androids in the Winter Olympics.
GEORGETOWN---Vanessa Redgrave, Christoph Waltz and Annette Bening star in this movie based on the true story of Albrecht Muth who murdered his much-older Washington, DC socialite wife.
7500---Joseph Gordon-Levitt stars in this movie about an airliner co-pilot on an international flight who fights off and then negotiates with armed terrorists to save the passengers. He replaces Paul Dano who had a schedule conflict.
CURVATURE---Linda Hamilton, Lyndsy Fonseca and Glenn Morshower star in this sci fi movie about an engineer who travels back in time to prevent her from committing a murder.
THE PAPER BAG PRINCESS---Margot Robbie and Elizabeth Banks will star in this Universal Pictures movie based on the children's book about a princess who must rescue a prince from a dragon.
HOCUS POCUS---Bette Midler commented on the Disney Channel remake of her 1993 movie, “I know it’s cheap. It’s going to be cheap! I’m not sure what they’re going to do with my character. My character is very, very broad and I don’t know who they’re going to find to play that.” She also said about a possible cameo on the remake, “No, no no!”.
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ANOTHER MASTURBATING Film director?????!!!!
SHande!
SHande!
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I hate to have to say it, 'cause I tend to believe her, but so far all we have are a bunch of accusations. Only Weintein's appear to be real or have merit.
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And if true, he's a monster.
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Nov 1, 2017 - 4:46 PM
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Octoberman
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The recent sex scandals issue seems to have become a lightning rod for every sexual transgression that people deem worthy of publicity. It's approaching absurd levels.
The Missus and I read up and discuss them on a daily basis. She, like me, is endlessly facinated by the mindset whereby the alleged victims feel compelled to inform the world of events, rather than actually getting down to business and pressing criminal charges.
To court public opinion in this manner seems, to us, to be more about getting attention than looking for justice.
When that happens, it diminishes the effectiveness of the legal system.
Which is not to say that there isn't any cause for real concern, because of course, every accusation must be taken seriously. But it just seems like no one is showing the common sense to just go down to the cop shop and press charges. When a new victim comes out with a statement, they make it to the publicists, not the law.
And that seems messed up.
But I suppose it should come as no surprise, seeing as that industry is all about calling attention to oneself.
There are no easy answers in any of this, but for crying out loud, people should have the brains to go to the damn police and do things properly--instead of joining the hysteria of trial-by-public-opinion. The potential for the destruction of innocent lives is far too high.
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Nov 1, 2017 - 9:06 PM
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Solium
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The recent sex scandals issue seems to have become a lightning rod for every sexual transgression that people deem worthy of publicity. It's approaching absurd levels.
The Missus and I read up and discuss them on a daily basis. She, like me, is endlessly facinated by the mindset whereby the alleged victims feel compelled to inform the world of events, rather than actually getting down to business and pressing criminal charges.
To court public opinion in this manner seems, to us, to be more about getting attention than looking for justice.
When that happens, it diminishes the effectiveness of the legal system.
Which is not to say that there isn't any cause for real concern, because of course, every accusation must be taken seriously. But it just seems like no one is showing the common sense to just go down to the cop shop and press charges. When a new victim comes out with a statement, they make it to the publicists, not the law.
And that seems messed up.
But I suppose it should come as no surprise, seeing as that industry is all about calling attention to oneself.
There are no easy answers in any of this, but for crying out loud, people should have the brains to go to the damn police and do things properly--instead of joining the hysteria of trial-by-public-opinion. The potential for the destruction of innocent lives is far too high.
I for one take every accusation with a grain of salt. Sex scandals are the easiest way to destroy someones career and life. Of course some are jumping on the bandwagon for fame and fortune. I also think we've jumped the shark when it comes to defining sexual assault. I've read studies that say one in four women who go to college become victims of sexual assault, I say BS to that. The numbers are reportedly even worse for women in the military. The numbers are greatly skewed or based on extremely distorted definitions. We're also raising girls with a victimized mentality which makes them second guess every encounter with a man.
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The recent sex scandals issue seems to have become a lightning rod for every sexual transgression that people deem worthy of publicity. It's approaching absurd levels.
The Missus and I read up and discuss them on a daily basis. She, like me, is endlessly facinated by the mindset whereby the alleged victims feel compelled to inform the world of events, rather than actually getting down to business and pressing criminal charges.
To court public opinion in this manner seems, to us, to be more about getting attention than looking for justice.
When that happens, it diminishes the effectiveness of the legal system.
Which is not to say that there isn't any cause for real concern, because of course, every accusation must be taken seriously. But it just seems like no one is showing the common sense to just go down to the cop shop and press charges. When a new victim comes out with a statement, they make it to the publicists, not the law.
And that seems messed up.
But I suppose it should come as no surprise, seeing as that industry is all about calling attention to oneself.
There are no easy answers in any of this, but for crying out loud, people should have the brains to go to the damn police and do things properly--instead of joining the hysteria of trial-by-public-opinion. The potential for the destruction of innocent lives is far too high.
I don't think that the situation is so simple. With respect to many of the victims, the events that they described happened years ago, and so even if many of them wanted to go to the police, it may be too late due to the expiration of the statute of limitations. Of course this begs the question of why wait so long to come forward, but as many studies show, there are any number of reasons victims don't go forward, including shame, embarrassment, an often erroneous belief by the victim that she/he somehow contributed to what happened, his word against her's, etc. Add to that the fact that those accused of sexual assault were in positions of power over the victims, and could make or break the victim's career (or at least claim they had the power to do as much), and so it isn't surprising that a victim doesn't want to come forward and risk career suicide. To make things even more hostile for coming forward, indications seem pretty clear that there were many connected to Weinstein who at worst tolerated his behavior, or at a minimum looked the other way. I doubt this type of culture was unique to Weinstein. So coming forward is an extremely risky situation both career wise and emotionally.
Also, going to the police isn't necessarily a guarantee that anything will happen. There have been recent reports of tens of thousands of rape kits that remain untested, sometimes for years, here in the United States. And if that is how the police handles rape, how do you think they will handle lesser sexual crimes? That doesn't mean sex crimes aren't prosecuted of course, but it is certainly disheartening to hear about.
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Nov 2, 2017 - 8:07 AM
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Solium
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Sex scandals are the easiest way to destroy someones career and life.
Hahahaha. And that's why Woody Allen and Roman Polanski haven't had careers for the last several decades.
Sexual harassment and assault are far, far more common than spurious accusations. Accusers are far more likely to not be taken seriously and to have their own lives dissected and destroyed than they are to achieve any kind of justice or "destroy someone's career". We see this all the time. Victims are put on trial while rapists get a slap on the wrist because, y'know, we have to consider their bright futures. And y'all think that somehow in Hollywood with its magnified levels of wealth and power somehow men are less likely to take advantage of that power? Good gracious, the misogyny on display. "Just can't trust those wimmins. Looking for their 15 seconds of fame and if they can destroy some poor man along the way, even better. I'm a man and I won't be fooled!" Get your heads out of your asses. That these things are coming out now doesn't mean that women are making shit up to get on the bandwagon, it means that shit that has been silenced for years is now perceived as safer to bring into the light.
See, Woody Allen was never convicted of anything, yet in one broad stroke you (and many others) accuse him of being a sexual predator. Again look at the numbers thrown about, one in four women who go to college are sexually assaulted? You really believe that? By today's standards and definitions I've been a victim of sexually harassment at work. Of course sexual harassment is a serious crime, and many have suffered. But to buy into every accusation shows no objectivity.
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Nov 2, 2017 - 10:07 AM
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Octoberman
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Hahahaha. And that's why Woody Allen and Roman Polanski haven't had careers for the last several decades.
Sexual harassment and assault are far, far more common than spurious accusations. Accusers are far more likely to not be taken seriously and to have their own lives dissected and destroyed than they are to achieve any kind of justice or "destroy someone's career". We see this all the time. Victims are put on trial while rapists get a slap on the wrist because, y'know, we have to consider their bright futures. And y'all think that somehow in Hollywood with its magnified levels of wealth and power somehow men are less likely to take advantage of that power? Good gracious, the misogyny on display. "Just can't trust those wimmins. Looking for their 15 seconds of fame and if they can destroy some poor man along the way, even better. I'm a man and I won't be fooled!" Get your heads out of your asses. That these things are coming out now doesn't mean that women are making shit up to get on the bandwagon, it means that shit that has been silenced for years is now perceived as safer to bring into the light.
The specific circumstances surrounding Allen & Polanski make those 2 examples uniquely unqualified to prove your point.
Whether you believe in the justice system or not, you are using the problems it had in the past to try to paint the way it is now.
I believe the system has improved to the point where an alleged victim stands a far greater chance of seeing justice done than ever before.
It's not perfect, but it's the only one there is.
It's far better to trust the law to sort out the genuine accusations from the fraudulent ones than to take part in the mass feeding frenzy we're seeing here. The court of public opinion does not have a mechanism with which to look at events objectively or fairly.
Yes, bring crimes into the light, but the CORRECT light. The light that, by its very existence, has the tools to deal with the problem properly.
I find it interesting that you refer only to women as the victims.
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Nov 2, 2017 - 10:13 AM
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Solium
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BLADE RUNNER---Michael Deeley, co-producer of the original 1982 movie, commented on the disappointing box office of the sequel which he hasn't seen yet, “The picture is very long. It must have been cut-able and should have been. They can’t do better [box office] because they can’t play it more than three times a day because it’s just too long, which is of course self-indulgent at the very least, arrogant probably. It’s criminal.”
He also attributed the original film's disappointing box office to fellow producers Bud Yorkin and Jerry Perenchio, “The film didn’t catch fire for ten years so I couldn’t have made a remake or another version of it and I wouldn’t have wanted to anyway. One of the things that spelt doom straight away was when Perenchio decided that he wanted to release the picture quickly to get his money back quickly. That was ignorant and naive. The only time this picture could ever be released sensibly was in the late autumn or in the winter when you could have capitalised on award nominations. Instead, they decided to do it in summer, opposite another little known sci-fi movie – a picture called ET. I wouldn’t talk to Bud Yorkin or Perenchio or have anything to do with them for the rest of my life.”
Jeez, what a bunch of malarkey! Titanic wasn't to long, neither was Avatar, or The Dark Knight. And to say E.T. took away it's business? Two totally different demographics. Finally, reasoning it needed Oscar buzz to succeed, doesn't say much about the film itself.
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Nov 2, 2017 - 11:07 AM
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Solium
Deeley is correct about the running time being a problem on BR2049, mostly because this is not a mass market brand, Bladerunner. These other long running time movies were appealing brands, or they had a less than R rating, and more mass market appeal. BR2049 as it is, a limited market brand, R rated, and 2 hours 44 minutes, was an enormous uphill battle to recover costs of $400 million, and it will end the run around $300 million toward what they need, that is a substantial loss. Now, even at 2 hours, you could argue that BR2049 would not have made another $100 million, but it probably would have got more of those audience floaters that go to movies and decide what to watch just to take a look, whereas that 2 hours 44 minutes puts a stitch in that, as well as limiting the total number of play times per day at each theater. I predicted this fallout quite a number of months ago.
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The Solium dialectic is on point.
The people who come up with the "statistics' about "rape' and sexual assault" pull their numbers out of their ass. Or, worse!
Mastadge is also right on. Have we forgotten Nicole Simpson ? Bill Cosby and Weinstein got away with their crimes for so long because of their fame and money. Period. How can anyway still put forth the canard that "they should have spoken out earlier?
" or "gone to the police" knowing how futile that usually is?
brm
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Cosby and Weinstein are serious criminals that deserved to be exposed.
However, this whole issue has now become farcical.
Are activists really trying to make the case that the abusers are in anyway representative of men in general?
I/we aren't rich and famous or powerful. Even if we behave badly we are NOT going to get away with it>
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How can anyway still put forth the canard that "they should have spoken out earlier?
" or "gone to the police" knowing how futile that usually is?
brm
What would you suggest they do?
well, that's the dilemma all these women faced, isn't it?
No easy answers.
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