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This is terrible news. Bad FOX, go to your room!
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This is a powerhouse deal with so much involved it will make any legal team's head spin wading through the paperwork. There are some good things about this deal and perhaps some that are not good. Whatever the outcome I am hoping for some good things for Marvel Studios and X-Men, F4, Deadpool et. al.
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https://www.comicbookmovie.com/fantastic_four/big-fox/marvel-update-a155061
I may be getting wildly ahead of myself here, but a thought occurs to me. If Fox sell their movie studio to Disney, this would presumably mean that Disney owns those assets, and therefore Fox titles could only be released by Intrada, the only label that Disney have an agreement with. So Fox titles could no longer be released by LLL, Kritzerland, Varese et al. Would that be a correct reading of the situation?
If so, not good news for those labels if they want to release titles from the Fox vaults.
Haven't most of the viable Fox titles now each been released about 17 times each by those labels though?
I'd be pleased if Disney bought Fox because it means I could buy Fox films without internally cringing at the fact that I was giving money to Rupert Murdoch.
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I would be waaaaay more interested in the potential of a sudden resolution to Fox's perpetual rights to the original 1977 Star Wars. If they sell to Disney then all three original trilogy movies will finally be under one roof. Would that clear the way for Disney to finally release the long-awaited blu-ray restoration of the original trilogy WITHOUT all the dang special edition fx and edits???
The first thing I thought of when I heard of this potential deal was that it would mean that Fox's perpetuity distribution rights to the original Star Wars would probably revert to Lucasfilm (I think Fox's Empire and Jedi rights were going to go back to Lucasfilm anyway in 2020.)
Of course, no matter what "original" versions of the films they release, there will be some controversy, as there was already a fair bit of tinkering on various home video releases and even cinema reissues before the Special Editions, so which "original" version do people want? And do they really want things like big matte lines, see-through Snowspeeder cockpits and the original terrible Landspeeder effects restored exactly as they were originally seen? Do people want the 35mm or the subtly different 70mm version of Empire (which had different dialogue, sound effects and optical wipes)? The original original sound mix for Star Wars, or the 1985 mix by Ben Burtt that most people of a certain generation are possibly used to from their VHS tapes and Laserdiscs?
Personally, I think they should do a restoration in the spirit of the originals, but with some of the cleaned-up polishes like improved matte lines etc retained. However, the ideal would be a mega-box similar to the Blade Runner 5 discs set with ALL of the different versions included. So, what, at least 8 versions of Star Wars, 6 versions of Empire and 5 of Jedi? Maybe more?
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I don't think that one mega media company absorbing another is anything to celebrate.
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Nov 7, 2017 - 9:20 AM
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A. A. Ron
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I would be waaaaay more interested in the potential of a sudden resolution to Fox's perpetual rights to the original 1977 Star Wars. If they sell to Disney then all three original trilogy movies will finally be under one roof. Would that clear the way for Disney to finally release the long-awaited blu-ray restoration of the original trilogy WITHOUT all the dang special edition fx and edits???
The first thing I thought of when I heard of this potential deal was that it would mean that Fox's perpetuity distribution rights to the original Star Wars would probably revert to Lucasfilm (I think Fox's Empire and Jedi rights were going to go back to Lucasfilm anyway in 2020.)
Of course, no matter what "original" versions of the films they release, there will be some controversy, as there was already a fair bit of tinkering on various home video releases and even cinema reissues before the Special Editions, so which "original" version do people want? And do they really want things like big matte lines, see-through Snowspeeder cockpits and the original terrible Landspeeder effects restored exactly as they were originally seen? Do people want the 35mm or the subtly different 70mm version of Empire (which had different dialogue, sound effects and optical wipes)? The original original sound mix for Star Wars, or the 1985 mix by Ben Burtt that most people of a certain generation are possibly used to from their VHS tapes and Laserdiscs?
Personally, I think they should do a restoration in the spirit of the originals, but with some of the cleaned-up polishes like improved matte lines etc retained. However, the ideal would be a mega-box similar to the Blade Runner 5 discs set with ALL of the different versions included. So, what, at least 8 versions of Star Wars, 6 versions of Empire and 5 of Jedi? Maybe more?
I don't see a mega release like that happening, even as a digital only release, though if they do put it out on digital, I'll buy it in a heartbeat!
At any rate, a Fox acquisition combined with Rogue One director Gareth Edwards' claim that he watched a 4k version of the original film at Skywalker Ranch gives me hope for future "despecialized" releases. Fingers crossed such a thing comes within the decade.
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Nov 7, 2017 - 9:57 AM
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Stop being so selfish ppl. I want the original Star Wars films too, FF and X-Men movie rights back with Marvel, etc, but not at the cost of one super mega company ruling the world.
"Ruling the world"? That's a bit of hyperbole. Does anyone remember Nokia? Very few people thought their place at the top of the cell phone market could be shaken. Or Netscape, Compaq, AOL, MySpace, etc.. I'm sure we can come up with many other examples.
Besides, oftentimes this encourages smaller, scrappy companies to take advantage, as bigger, consolidated companies tend to get complacent and don't keep innovating. I'm not suggesting someone will do this to Disney (although, management can change, and business practices stagnate - recall the Disney of the 1970s to mid 1980s). But, Netflix, YouTube, Hulu are all examples of distribution avenues filling a market need the big studios either ignored are were hostile to.
I understand the concern. Still, Disney has done a really remarkable job of taking care of brands. Their overall output is one of very high quality, even if the genre of films themselves aren't one's cup of tea.
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Nov 7, 2017 - 10:08 AM
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WhoDat
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I would be waaaaay more interested in the potential of a sudden resolution to Fox's perpetual rights to the original 1977 Star Wars. If they sell to Disney then all three original trilogy movies will finally be under one roof. Would that clear the way for Disney to finally release the long-awaited blu-ray restoration of the original trilogy WITHOUT all the dang special edition fx and edits???
The first thing I thought of when I heard of this potential deal was that it would mean that Fox's perpetuity distribution rights to the original Star Wars would probably revert to Lucasfilm (I think Fox's Empire and Jedi rights were going to go back to Lucasfilm anyway in 2020.)
Of course, no matter what "original" versions of the films they release, there will be some controversy, as there was already a fair bit of tinkering on various home video releases and even cinema reissues before the Special Editions, so which "original" version do people want? And do they really want things like big matte lines, see-through Snowspeeder cockpits and the original terrible Landspeeder effects restored exactly as they were originally seen? Do people want the 35mm or the subtly different 70mm version of Empire (which had different dialogue, sound effects and optical wipes)? The original original sound mix for Star Wars, or the 1985 mix by Ben Burtt that most people of a certain generation are possibly used to from their VHS tapes and Laserdiscs?
Personally, I think they should do a restoration in the spirit of the originals, but with some of the cleaned-up polishes like improved matte lines etc retained. However, the ideal would be a mega-box similar to the Blade Runner 5 discs set with ALL of the different versions included. So, what, at least 8 versions of Star Wars, 6 versions of Empire and 5 of Jedi? Maybe more?
I don't think Disney would ever go the route of Blade Runner with multiple editions in the same set. It's not a complex thing whatsoever... they know that the fans have been begging for a "de-specialized" restored/remastered edition which rolls the original trilogy back to its glory days from the 80s/early90s. Just give us a cleaned up, anamorphic widescreen blu-ray of the original trilogy. 
According to the Lucas biography that came out last year he had a clause in the sale to Disney that said they would have to take his stories/concepts for the new trilogy. Disney agreed, then threw them out the window within a year. So they're not exactly averse to going against Lucas' wishes when it suits them. And as we all know, Lucas repeatedly says that the special editions are exactly the way he wants people to watch Star Wars. I think it's time for Disney to stop indulging Lucas in his personal fantasy that the original trilogy doesn't exist anymore. Clean it up, release it, and you've got my money.
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I'm just looking forward to seeing the Disney castle logo with "When You Wish Upon a Star" playing before the next Deadpool film.
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Nov 7, 2017 - 10:11 AM
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CCW1970
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I would be waaaaay more interested in the potential of a sudden resolution to Fox's perpetual rights to the original 1977 Star Wars. If they sell to Disney then all three original trilogy movies will finally be under one roof. Would that clear the way for Disney to finally release the long-awaited blu-ray restoration of the original trilogy WITHOUT all the dang special edition fx and edits???
The first thing I thought of when I heard of this potential deal was that it would mean that Fox's perpetuity distribution rights to the original Star Wars would probably revert to Lucasfilm (I think Fox's Empire and Jedi rights were going to go back to Lucasfilm anyway in 2020.)
Of course, no matter what "original" versions of the films they release, there will be some controversy, as there was already a fair bit of tinkering on various home video releases and even cinema reissues before the Special Editions, so which "original" version do people want? And do they really want things like big matte lines, see-through Snowspeeder cockpits and the original terrible Landspeeder effects restored exactly as they were originally seen? Do people want the 35mm or the subtly different 70mm version of Empire (which had different dialogue, sound effects and optical wipes)? The original original sound mix for Star Wars, or the 1985 mix by Ben Burtt that most people of a certain generation are possibly used to from their VHS tapes and Laserdiscs?
Personally, I think they should do a restoration in the spirit of the originals, but with some of the cleaned-up polishes like improved matte lines etc retained. However, the ideal would be a mega-box similar to the Blade Runner 5 discs set with ALL of the different versions included. So, what, at least 8 versions of Star Wars, 6 versions of Empire and 5 of Jedi? Maybe more?
I don't think Disney would ever go the route of Blade Runner with multiple editions in the same set. It's not a complex thing whatsoever... they know that the fans have been begging for a "de-specialized" restored/remastered edition which rolls the original trilogy back to its glory days from the 80s/early90s. Just give us a cleaned up, anamorphic widescreen blu-ray of the original trilogy.
According to the Lucas biography that came out last year he had a clause in the sale to Disney that said they would have to take his stories/concepts for the new trilogy. Disney agreed, then threw them out the window within a year. So they're not exactly averse to going against Lucas' wishes when it suits them. And as we all know, Lucas repeatedly says that the special editions are exactly the way he wants people to watch Star Wars. I think it's time for Disney to stop indulging Lucas in his personal fantasy that the original trilogy doesn't exist anymore. Clean it up, release it, and you've got my money.
Amen!
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