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 Posted:   Nov 19, 2017 - 4:54 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

I heard this question on a podcast: http://www.earwolf.com/episode/the-most-amazing-destruction/

You just started a country. Who will write your national anthem?

Me? I first thought of Bing Crosby's composer. I thought it was Jimmy McHugh, and I found out he wrote

I Can't Give You Anything But Love



On the Sunny Side of the Street



and
It's a Most Unusual Day



I was wrong: Crosby's composer was Jimmy Van Heusen, working with lyricist Johnny Burke.

But even though McHugh is not my favorite song composer, I'd still like a national anthem like one of those songs.

You?

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2017 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

I'm a Roy Moore supporter. How about "Thank Heaven For Little Girls"?

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2017 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

I'm a Bill Clinton fan, especially his exploits on board the "Lolita Express" and "Air F__ One".
How about "Thank Heaven for Little Girls"?

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2017 - 11:57 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

Leave the political comments outside, please, so David can continue his thread. Thank you.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2017 - 12:50 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I thought this would be about our ACTUAL national anthem composers, not which composers we WISHED were that.

Bjørnstjerne Bjørnson wrote the lyrics for our anthem (one of the "big four" in Norwegian literature history, the others being Kielland, Lie and Ibsen), while the melody was composed by Richard Nordraak -- Bjørson's cousin. Sadly, Nordraak passed away at only age 23 in 1866 (of tuberculosis), but he did manage to compose a few bits of music, mostly stageplays by his cousin.

If Nordraak hadn't composed the anthem, an obvious choice would have been Edvard Grieg. He was actually more or less the same age as Nordraak, so they would both have been around 20 when the melody needed composing. In fact, they were friends while they both stayed in Copenhagen. Grieg had already composed several things by then, but obviously didn't have the connection to Bjørnson that Nordraak did. So we can only speculate what the more famous Grieg would have done with the material.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2017 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I hate our National Anthem, God Save the Queen.
I would much rather it be Rule Brittania or Land of Hope and Glory or even that Elgar piece Nimrod with some cool lyrics added.
Or get John Williams to write a brilliant new one for us smile

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2017 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

"America the Beautiful" has an interesting origin, written as it was by two people who didn't know about each other. The tune was intended as a hymn tune, and the words were intended as a non-musical poem -- similar, in a way, to how Francis Scott Key penned words to a pre-existing British drinking song. "Wars not make one great," as someone wise once said, so I prefer "America the Beautiful."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_the_Beautiful

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2017 - 3:28 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

I hate our National Anthem, God Save the Queen.

Johnny Rotten wrote that, right?


Or get John Williams to write a brilliant new one for us smile

Yep, if he's still around and working after we get all the papers signed, I'd ask him to do it. And pay him handsomely out of our new National Treasury. big grin

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2017 - 4:15 PM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

I hate our National Anthem, God Save the Queen.
I would much rather it be Rule Brittania or Land of Hope and Glory or even that Elgar piece Nimrod with some cool lyrics added.
Or get John Williams to write a brilliant new one for us smile


Rule, Brittania? That chestnut about the old empire's power at sea and keeping those nasty foreigners in their place?

I'd have thought Jerusalem would be the best choice, the cricket team use that before test games.

I'm not keen on anthems or "patriotism" that much. I can't help but think that borders are artificial and we're all just people who happen to live somewhere.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2017 - 9:32 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Me neither Thomas, but I'm mainly talking about the tune or melody.
Apart from having no regard for kings and queens of any type, finding it almost unbelievable, in this day and age, that we still have a pampered family on the biggest benefits package of them all, the dirge like melody makes me wanna vom.
At least Rule Brittannia has a decent tune.
Maybe Elmer's Great Escape theme should be co-opted, especially in light of current events! wink

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2017 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

A republican, are you, Kev? I'm very much proud of our monarchy, and I think most Norwegians are. The discontent seems more widespread in the UK.

Of course, the King (or our royal family) has his own song that is not the national anthem. Simply called "The King's Song" in Norwegian, it uses the same melody as the British "God Save the King". The ties to the British monarchy is strong, of course, our King Harald V being the second cousin of Queen Elizabeth.

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2017 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

I'd vote for Jimmy McHugh, too, and his anthem would accompany my country's colors!

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2017 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

"America the Beautiful" has an interesting origin, written as it was by two people who didn't know about each other. The tune was intended as a hymn tune, and the words were intended as a non-musical poem -- similar, in a way, to how Francis Scott Key penned words to a pre-existing British drinking song. "Wars not make one great," as someone wise once said, so I prefer "America the Beautiful."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_the_Beautiful


I agree Mr. Holmes! "America the Beautiful" is wonderful, with lyrics that are much more descriptive and memorable.

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2017 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

A republican, are you, Kev? I'm very much proud of our monarchy, and I think most Norwegians are. The discontent seems more widespread in the UK.

Yes but aren't the royal families in countries like Norway and Holland more of a figurehead, bicycling monarchy in that they aren't heads of state and they don't have hundreds of hangers on down the bloodline costing their countries a fortune?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2017 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

They ARE heads of state, but true -- not as powerful as the prime minister. But then that's the case in the UK too.

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2017 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Because of how kind of stately and patriotic the Enterprise B music from "Star Trek: Generations" sounds -- and because I'm the only one would do this -- I'd pick Dennis McCarthy.

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2017 - 7:45 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Because of how kind of stately and patriotic the Enterprise B music from "Star Trek: Generations" sounds -- and because I'm the only one would do this -- I'd pick Dennis McCarthy.

Thank you Justin, for staying on topic.

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2017 - 7:47 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Thor and Friends: I invite you to hold your discussion in another thread, please.

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2017 - 7:48 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

I'd vote for Jimmy McHugh, too, and his anthem would accompany my country's colors!



Thanks for voting McHugh!

And your expertise will surely make short work of my other question, Ray: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=123860&forumID=7&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2017 - 1:16 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thor and Friends: I invite you to hold your discussion in another thread, please.

Will do. I've long wanted to do a thread on favourite national anthems (outside one's own) and the context/composers surrounding them, which is a topic that has always fascinated me. In fact, I think I may have done one at some point (alas, the search engine is not working at the present time).

 
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