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 Posted:   Dec 29, 2017 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Does anybody out there have an affinity for John Williams's comedy scores? I always thought that this was an neglected stage in his career. My all time favorite Williams's comedy score is "Fitzwilly". Anybody who wants to post their favorite Williams' comedy score - that includes "Home Alone" too!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2017 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

The choices are:
NOT WITH MY WIFE YOU DON'T
BACHELOR FLAT
JOHN GOLDFARB PLEASE COME HOME
FITZWILLY
HOW TO STEAL A MILLION
GUIDE FOR THE MARRIED MAN
HEARTBEEPS
PENELOPE
HOME ALONE

I guess HEARTBEEPS

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2017 - 3:42 PM   
 By:   Adam B.   (Member)

1941 and The Witches of Eastwick are up there on a short list.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2017 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

1841 for me as well! smile

EDIT....ummmmm...make that 1941! big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2017 - 4:17 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

The Long Goodbye.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2017 - 4:32 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yes, I do!

In fact, these days I'm far more interested in his 60s material (whether comedies or otherwise) than all the tried and true orchestral classics.

NOT WITH MY WIFE YOU DON'T is one of my favourite JW soundtracks, period.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2017 - 4:32 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

The Long Goodbye.

That's not a comedy.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2017 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Well, it doesn't have Dick Van Dyke or Lucille Ball in it, but it is a comedy with dark overtones as is MASH.

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2017 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

I am quite fond of A Guide for the Married Man (love the title song and "The Globetrotters" may well be one of my favorite Williams cues) and Heartbeeps (likewise, "Crimebuster").

I've also gotten into Not with My Wife, You Don't!. Good, if not quite as catchy.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2017 - 1:53 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Well, it doesn't have Dick Van Dyke or Lucille Ball in it, but it is a comedy with dark overtones as is MASH.

I rather consider it a pastiche movie with lots of meta tools. Like a French New Wave film. I guess if you find such meta tools comic, you might consider it a comedy.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2017 - 4:24 AM   
 By:   Adam S   (Member)

I've always felt Home Alone is one of the most remarkable movies because it didn't have a big opening, was disliked by critics for the most part but took off with the public and became one of the biggest making movies of all time for that time. John Williams had already been associated with most of the biggest money makes of all time but with the kind of movie that are more typical and then this little movie came out of nowhere.

The Christmas stuff is the highlight but the comic slapstick writing is pretty amazing in showcasing his attention to detail and just overall insight. Slapstick isn't my cup of tea but to the extent it works the music I think does play a big role in timing and the set up of the humor. Williams played a bigger role I think in the movie's success than is generally appreciated - not just for the comedy but also the sentimental payoff.

- Adam


 
 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2017 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   JohnnyRoastbeef   (Member)

I could listen to "The Globetrotters" from A Guide for the Married Man every day. I absolutely love that track!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2017 - 5:02 PM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

Williams never wrote a huge amount of comedy so it makes the pick a little easier.

John Goldfarb's score on close inspection proves to be one of Williams most inventive efforts, delightful mixing & matching of elements, exotica, middle-east, ethnic melodies, themes catchy like spy music, Williams frenetic cues keep pace & trajectory with its screen narrative.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2017 - 2:58 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Williams never wrote a huge amount of comedy so it makes the pick a little easier.

Actually, percent-wise, Williams has written more comedies than quite a few composers.

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2017 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   Jeff Eldridge   (Member)

My favorite John Williams score for a comedy film is Monsignor.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2017 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

My favorite John Williams score for a comedy film is Monsignor.

He, he....yeah, it's so camp in its execution, it might very well be a comedy.

Then again, films like HEARTBEEPS are even better examples of that. I don't think HEARTBEEPS was ever intended as a pure comedy, despite Kaufman's presence.

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2017 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

Williams never wrote a huge amount of comedy so it makes the pick a little easier.

Actually, percent-wise, Williams has written more comedies than quite a few composers.


Lies, damned lies, and statistics ... [Disraeli / Twain] ?

Mitch

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2017 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

In order to understand/appreciate a comment, you need to understand/appreciate the commentator's point of view/opinions ...

... so I'll start by saying that I'm not Mr. Williams' greatest fan. I have a number of his scores but I don't think he rates in my top 10 film score composers ... albeit I acknowledge he is probably the most successful in this field.

So, to answer the OP's question: I don't rate his comedy scores at all highly. Pleasant: certainly, and workable ... but definitely third-rate when compared with his contemporaries: Mancini and Dunning ... and there may be several/many others such as De Vol and Previn with whom he compares unfavourably.

When I last watched How to Steal a Million (1966) I found the music intrusive and less than good; I'm not sure I've ever seen Not With My Wife, You Don't! (1966) but its score is not that welcoming ... and I imagine Mr. Mercer's involvement aided it somewhat. I have that album and scores for A Guide for the Married Man (1967) and Penelope (1966) which have limited appeal - for me - the latter's best track being The Sun is Gray ... enough said.

A brilliant composer/arranger/conductor ~ all-round musician but, for me, comedies have never been his forte.

Mitch

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 1, 2018 - 10:57 AM   
 By:   roy phillippe   (Member)

Does anybody out there have an affinity for John Williams's comedy scores? I always thought that this was an neglected stage in his career. My all time favorite Williams's comedy score is "Fitzwilly". Anybody who wants to post their favorite Williams' comedy score - that includes "Home Alone" too!

This film gave us the song "Make Me Rainbows" with a lyric by the Bergmans. It's been recorded a number of times.
One of my favorite covers is by Michel Legrand on his "Cinema Legrand" LP. MGM records, mid 60's. Entire album is on youtube.

 
 Posted:   Jan 1, 2018 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Penelope is the only one of his "wacky" 60's comedy scores that I can listen to straight through.

 
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