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 Posted:   Jan 1, 2018 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   Brundlefly   (Member)

The Deluxe Edition of "The Burbs" is one of few special editions that has far too many tracks considering its running time of only 61 minutes. Besides it features different tracks that are musically connected which is meanwhile a no-go for such releases, as it leads to short interruptions on many media players.
I've reduced the 33 tracks to only 25 tracks to get a better overview over the tracks and to improve the listening experience. I've also fixed a cutoff at the beginning of one cue by fading it gradually in.

1. Nightwork (2:36)
2. The Window/Home Delivery (2:23)
3. The Raven/Nocturnal Feeders (1:12)*
4. Good Neighbors (2:06)
5. Let's Go (2:04)
6. Bad Karma (0:38)
7. The Sentinel (3:22)
8. My Neighborhood (2:04)
9. The Garage (4:24)
10. Spare Key (2:12)*
11. Devil Worship/The Dream (3:40)*
12. The Note (1:28)
13. This Is Walter (2:00)
14. Snooping Around (0:49)
15. I'm Ok (1:02)
16. Ask Him/What's in the Cellar (2:18)*
17. The Wig (2:24)
18. Hot Wires (2:37)
19. Red Rover, Red Rover/No Beer (4:18)*
20. Home Furnace/No Lights (2:27)*
21. Walter's Home (1:58)
22. Something Is Moving (1:46)
23. There's a Body/My Skull/The Gurney (3:24)*
24. The Trunk (1:42)
25. Pack Your Bags/Square One (6:21)*

*edited tracks

That's what a re-release of this score should look like, in my opinion. Some of the tracks have a much better flow now, when they're combined, and the score does not seem to be chopped into thousand pieces any more.

Since it works so well, I wanted to share this with you. The only special edition I can think of which has similar issues is "Deep Rising".

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 1, 2018 - 9:51 PM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

Would be cool if this got a reissue since I missed out on it. Plus it's been out of print for over 10 years now.

 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2018 - 1:27 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

The Deluxe Edition of "The Burbs" is one of few special editions that has far too many tracks considering its running time of only 61 minutes. Besides it features different tracks that are musically connected which is meanwhile a no-go for such releases, as it leads to short interruptions on many media players.

Not if the tracks are actually connected on the CD and the player is has gapless layback (a minimum requirement for any media player I choose).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2018 - 5:44 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Never had a problem with this CD either.

 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2018 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

The Deluxe Edition of "The Burbs" is one of few special editions that has far too many tracks considering its running time of only 61 minutes. Besides it features different tracks that are musically connected which is meanwhile a no-go for such releases, as it leads to short interruptions on many media players.

Not if the tracks are actually connected on the CD and the player is has gapless layback (a minimum requirement for any media player I choose).


I only run into this problem when I make MP3 discs which I play in my car. It's quite annoying.
As far as making ones own playlists, I do that all the time. That's the beauty of the digital era we live in.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2018 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   Brundlefly   (Member)

Never had a problem with this CD either.

That's no issue if you listen to the score on CD. But on some media players and when arranging an own playlist on a CD there is always this tiny gap between the two tracks.

But it's not really about that. I just combined a few cues, how Varese and many other labels would nowadays do to improve the listening experience of the album.

By the way, is the cue "Ask Him" cut off at the beginning on every CD of that release or is it just mine?

 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2018 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   jkheiser   (Member)

I don't find the partitioning of tracks on this edition of The 'Burbs to be objectionable, but we all have our own taste and preference.

For me, FSM's 2.0 release for The Omega Man has a real whopper of compounded cues on track 16.

"The Future is Secured/Neville & Dutch/Richie Caught/Lisa Joins The Family/Star Chamber/Neville Finds Richie/Neville Crashes Through/Music Box"

Boy howdy.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2018 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

In one respect you may be right, BF, me personally, I don't like fiddling with Goldsmith scores, any composer really, if there's a quibble its the original Burbs, nothing on it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2018 - 6:25 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)


That's no issue if you listen to the score on CD. But on some media players and when arranging an own playlist on a CD there is always this tiny gap between the two tracks.


This is a problem with those players (and to a point, the Mp3 format itself), NOT the CD.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2018 - 8:15 PM   
 By:   Brundlefly   (Member)


That's no issue if you listen to the score on CD. But on some media players and when arranging an own playlist on a CD there is always this tiny gap between the two tracks.


This is a problem with those players (and to a point, the Mp3 format itself), NOT the CD.


No mp3 format. It is a problem with many devices and players, so it does not really make sense to just create the album for players that cope with it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2018 - 5:57 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)



No mp3 format. It is a problem with many devices and players, so it does not really make sense to just create the album for players that cope with it.


I've never heard of a CD player that will have a problem playing any CD gapless. This is a CD. It was made to be listened to as a CD. Anything you do with it beyond that is on you, not the producers. I have hundreds of discs that have tracks that play continuous music between them. This CD is hardly an anomaly with that.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2018 - 12:54 AM   
 By:   Brundlefly   (Member)

There is a new reissue of the complete score of The 'Burbs!!!

...on vinyl.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2018 - 1:52 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)



No mp3 format. It is a problem with many devices and players, so it does not really make sense to just create the album for players that cope with it.


I've never heard of a CD player that will have a problem playing any CD gapless. This is a CD. It was made to be listened to as a CD. Anything you do with it beyond that is on you, not the producers. I have hundreds of discs that have tracks that play continuous music between them. This CD is hardly an anomaly with that.


Indeed, CDs are always gapless. I have Mahler symphonies where a single movement is divided into 15 or more separate tracks... would be horror if there were gaps in between. :-)
Personally, I only players that can handle gapless play for even MP3 files (which is -- unlike actual lossless formats such as FLAC or ALAC -- inherently non-gapless).
My car stereo can handle FLAC files (which are gapless), but AAC or MP3 files are not played gapless, so playing these files is the one case where there would be a gab in between connected tracks. But that's easily remedied since you can connect these tracks when converting them to MP3.

If you rip your CD music to MP3 and your player cannot handle gapless, you always have the option to convert two or more cues into one. Tracks that segue into the next track will then play as one file without a gap.

I think it is much better to connect short musical tracks into longer ones if it is musically feasible. I have rather one 8 minute track than 9 tracks that are 52 seconds long. (Again: provided the musical structure suggests this... but indeed many composers compose the music to do just that.) Musical architecture is the key here... I think the music should come first.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2018 - 3:05 AM   
 By:   Mink   (Member)

There is a new reissue of the complete score of The 'Burbs!!!

...on vinyl.


Oh gee, the cover...what were they thinking? ^^ I Love this score from start to finish (and the Varese sequencing is prefect I think) and it would be great to own it on vinyl but such an odd cover really puts me off to be honest. Why do they have to go that „creative“ haha.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2018 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   Brundlefly   (Member)

May it be possible that this release indicates that Varese doesn't hold the rights of The 'Burbs any more? A reissue (!!!on CD!!!) would be more probable then.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2018 - 8:28 PM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

The movie's 30th anniversary will be upon us next year. So hopefully Varese, Intrada, or La La Land Records, or some other specialty label will commemorate it by reissuing the complete score.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2018 - 8:39 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

There is a new reissue of the complete score of The 'Burbs!!!

...on vinyl.


Oh gee, the cover...what were they thinking? ^^ I Love this score from start to finish (and the Varese sequencing is prefect I think) and it would be great to own it on vinyl but such an odd cover really puts me off to be honest. Why do they have to go that „creative“ haha.


I just looked at that cover... I thought you might have been joking...but WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT COVER HAVE TO DO WITH THE MOVIE????? I'll never by vinyl again, but if I DID, THAT cover would COMPLETELY turn me off of buying it!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2018 - 8:43 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

Another question, and this can apply to any of these vinyl releases... are the soundclips from the ACTUAL VINYL releases, or are they from the TAPES? If they're from the tapes, then I think that's misleading.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2018 - 9:15 PM   
 By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

Just looked up the LP and that is indeed a shit choice for the cover.

 
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