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 Posted:   Jan 5, 2018 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

Link: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/woody-allen-archival-writings-are-full-misogyny-writer-1071706

 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2018 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

"You don't need a male. Two mothers are absolutely fine."

"Really? Because I always feel very few people survive one mother."

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2018 - 10:41 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

He has always made my skin crawl.

I don't see him as a misogynist. His behaviors described in the article make him sound more like a pedophile.

 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2018 - 11:25 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Ever notice that all his recent films feature young sexy actresses (including his Amazon series).

Sometimes i get the feeling its the main reason he makes them

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 12:12 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Ever notice that all his recent films feature young sexy actresses (including his Amazon series).


Yes, he's certainly unique in Hollywood that way,.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 2:35 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

He has always made my skin crawl.

I don't see him as a misogynist. His behaviors described in the article make him sound more like a pedophile.


That was what that "article" implied, or at least wanted the reader to infer from what it was implying--or insinuating. wink

Where are the legions of Allen's alleged "victims"? And in the case of his estranged daughter, what pedo begns his molesting "career" at age 56 in a crowded home, defies his claustrophobia, and goes up to the attic in order to do that despicable deed?

If Allen did do what Farrow alleges, then he should be tried and convicted for it in court, not the media, but they never saw fit to even try him 25 years ago.

Seems like the Dylan Farrow allegation came out of the Soon Yi scandal. It was "thrown in" by Allen's scorned ex, Mia Farrow.

You want to read about a real pedophile? Read this article on Mia's convicted molester brother, John Farrow:

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Mia-Farrows-Brother-to-Be-Sentenced-for-Sex-Abuse-229522321.html

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 8:33 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Looks to me like John Farrow started his "molesting career" rather late in his life also.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

In related news, someone finally went through the archives, which have been accumulating since 1980. It was probably cheaper for Woody to donate them to Princeton than to pay extra for Solid Waste to haul them away.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

And Farrow was a 'child' bride, full of mischief. John Torturro's film, Fading Gigolo, had Allen acting as the pimp and consequently getting into some slight bother with the local elders. A clever way of openly opening the skeleton cupboard and ceremoniously burying old bones.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

There was a very famous, beautiful Hollywood actress in the '40s and '50s who was married to a famous film director. I won't mention her name, there's no point in spreading scandal. She had his child. One day, the director came home and found her in bed with his 13 year old son from another marriage. He divorced her immediately. Years later, she met the son, all grown up, and they married. They had children. It was covered up for ages, but leaked, and her career suffered.

But she was beautiful.

Now, Woody was not, by the standards of Hollywood, a classical handsome leading man. He made a career out of that very fact, in a way. So the men who were disillusioned by the above-mentioned beautiful woman, do not have counterparts in Woody's case. Women could say, 'Oh, I always thought him a creep'. I know other women besides Joan who think this way.

But I would ask, irrespective of his guilt or otherwise, if this is not actually an unconscious (?) way of having a 'legitimate' excuse for venting some dislike of 'unattactive' people, in a way otherwise not sanctioned.

Since I'm a male, I of course have never found him 'creepy'. He plays the pity card a lot, but he's funny, satirical, bittersweet, and clearly talented. Those are good movies for the most part. So I'm saying, had this been a WOMAN, as in the case mentioned above, would there be half the furore? Nothing's been proven in law.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Also ... it's an easy zeitgeist thing now to call any sort of crime against women 'misogyny'. Extreme hatred of women, and extreme idealisation of women are often directly and causally linked.

But no-one's calling D. H. Lawrence misogynist. Woody is in a similar camp.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I am a bit confused, William. You mention the actress and said her career SUFFURED when her secret came out. Later you ask if there would be "half the furore" if this current story was about a woman. According to your first story, wouldn't there be MORE furore if this was a woman? Seems like the first paragraph negates the last one. Maybe I am reading it incorrectly. Woody is still making movies and doesn't seem to be suffering like the actress from the 40s and 50s did.

William, I admit you are absolutely CORRECT in your assessment of "unattractive people."
We should judge actions, not appearances, but we often don't do that.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 9:46 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

So, it all boils down to the courtroom, and what can be 'proved' and what can be 'disproved,' with this here pile of bricks.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   Jameson281   (Member)

Some comments on Mia from son Moses:

https://ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2018/01/04/moses-farrow-speaks-out/

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Ever notice that all his recent films feature young sexy actresses (including his Amazon series).


Yes, he's certainly unique in Hollywood that way,.


Egggxsactly!

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Just more SJW witch-hunt crap. 90% of everything you all own, was made by slave labor and child slave labor. But you all can live with that.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

Some comments on Mia from son Moses:

https://ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2018/01/04/moses-farrow-speaks-out/


And not a peep from André. He's wise to stay out of this.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I am a bit confused, William. You mention the actress and said her career SUFFURED when her secret came out. Later you ask if there would be "half the furore" if this current story was about a woman. According to your first story, wouldn't there be MORE furore if this was a woman? Seems like the first paragraph negates the last one. Maybe I am reading it incorrectly. Woody is still making movies and doesn't seem to be suffering like the actress from the 40s and 50s did.


William is referring to Gloria Grahame. I also believe that *back then* there would have been more of a fuss made about the scandal since she was a woman. Just like when they crucified Ingrid Bergman (but later "forgave" her).

Nowadays, a woman would be forgiven, but a (white) male gets dragged through the mud.

Oh, and shame on you Joan Hue for being yet another of those "Guilty Before Proven Not Guilty" types.

All your liberalism...wasted.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Hey Jim
Please post in the original German so there is less chance of mistranslation.
Thank you.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Jim, I know you have seemed to always like Allen and his movies. I quit seeing his movies over time because I didn't care for most of them. I liked a few but overall, I think he is highly overrated. I'll say it for you. Shame On Me.

He was in a relationship for 12 years with Mia. She had an adopted daughter who was 35 years younger than Allen. He has stated that he just started out having a "fling" with this young girl, but it lasted and he married her. That isn't an allegation; it is the truth. Still, that fling offends my moral compass. If others have different reactions to that issue, that's fine. Shame on Me for Being Offended.

Those stories about him from other female sources are probably ALL LIES because he wasn't found guilty in a court of law. Forget any pattern. Therefore he must be a decent, honorable man.

I shall now go whip myself for my shameful, horrible thoughts!!

 
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