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 Posted:   Jan 30, 2018 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   ProsePrevails   (Member)

Hi, everyone.

I was curious as to what platform people prefer to enjoy/store their music on these days. And with whatever the choice, which manager do you guys use - iTunes, MediaMonkey, or any other? How about mobile listening? Personally, I'm on Windows 10 as I prefer the management of multiple internal drives, etc., and while I still use iTunes, I canceled iTunes Match recently.

My issue with the service is that you cannot control to which tracks it matches. For instance, if it matches something in their database, it's often to an old-mastered cue or album on their servers, so I can't get the benefit of listening to newly-released score albums in all their remastered glory. I have to sync everything to my mobile devices manually so I can have the exact album I want to listen to. It's a bit more of a hassle. I really wish Apple would allow you to control whether you want tracks matched or not.

How about you guys - is there a better method? I'm interested in learning of other people's preferences.

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2018 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

I copy all of my CDs losslessly and add those tracks to iTunes. I load them all up on an old iPhone, using iTunes' syncing and smart playlists to keep music fresh without a lot of work.

I don't use Match or any of that.

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2018 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I've had a couple of IPhones, so I was forced to use ITunes for ages - but its a terrible program, with lots of very unintuitive UI and settings. I've seen made my life more complicated by using ITunes to rip CDs but uploading them using a third-party program, as I absolutely abhor the synch-ing in ITunes.

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2018 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   JTWfan77   (Member)

I only use iTunes to rip my CDs to ALAC and to purchase music from the store. I use MP3tag to add album art and organise my digital library. I listen on my smartphones with Neutron (brilliant media player!) via headphones or streaming to AptX Bluetooth media hub (to add wireless playback to my legacy audio system).

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2018 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

iTunes lossless.
Goldsmith Playlists for days.

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2018 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Windows 7 on my main desktop. I have a few laptops with Windows 10 but my desktop is doing just fine in 7. I rip to FLAC using EAC and create playlists in Foobar2000 that I play from when I am at home. I backup my FLAC rips regularly to an external hard drive.

On the go, I use my 80GB Zune for music and podcasts. It still works and the sync software still works so I add new things to it every once in a while. When the Zune dies I may switch to an old Android phone for music. I also use Spotify on my Phone when I want to listen to something that was more of a mainstream release that I'm not sure if I want to buy yet.

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2018 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

I use Winamp on my Windows desktop and laptop, and listen portably on the Cowon Plenue D that arrived for Christmas (thanks Mom!)

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2018 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   Martin B.   (Member)

iTunes. All CDs ripped losslessly using dbpoweramp (would never use iTunes to rip). All fully tagged and with 1500x1500 artwork or largest available.
Sync to iPod, stream to Apple TV and I have a separate iTunes library for albums to upload into the cloud.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2018 - 5:13 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

I only listen to CDs. So there.

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2018 - 2:35 AM   
 By:   ProsePrevails   (Member)

I only listen to CDs. So there.

I’ve thought about just listening to the discs themselves, but then I always remind myself that I lose the ability to make custom playlists and of course I fear damaging a rare disc by accident.

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2018 - 2:36 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

I rip with EAC to mp3 (I know, I know...but they are so tiny...)

I use Winamp on my Win 10 desktop and carry a copy of the files on a Fiio 5 markII player.

The albums are edited for sequence, completeness, ect and stored on a CF card, and micro SD card in the Fiio.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2018 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

I’ve thought about just listening to the discs themselves, but then I always remind myself that I lose the ability to make custom playlists and of course I fear damaging a rare disc by accident.

There's no fun in having a rare disc if you're not going to play it. You might as well have downloaded the files and not have the disc at all.

And cuatom playlists ain't all that :-)

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2018 - 2:50 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I've got most of my physical CDs converted to lossless ALAC files via iTunes these days.

When I listen to music at home, I have a T+A r1000e which I use to stream the lossless files (excellent sound quality). When on the road, I have the same files as AAC for mobile devices or car radio.

Don't know of a better way currently to store and listen to music, but I'm sure open to suggestions.

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2018 - 10:00 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

About 80% of my listening is via Spotify (Mac desktop and iPhone), with iTunes Match filling in the missing gaps of albums that aren't on streaming.
And I do still occasionally spin a CD in the car and will one day get a turntable up and running again.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 4:26 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

I archive all my CDs (I don't buy digital downloads) in FLAC onto hard drives using Media Monkey which I like much better than iTunes. The main flaw with MM (which drives me crazy) is that when you retrieve the album info online, it can mess up depending on how the info was originally input in the online dB. For example, if the track titles have "slashes" in them and they were typed with spaces before and/or after the slash, Media Monkey moves the first part of the track title into the Artist field and truncates the track title. There must be no space or you have to manually edit all the tracks. If anybody from the labels is responsible for putting the CD information online and is reading this, please bear that in mind. It should be, for example "The Final Confrontation/Finale" NOT "The Final Confrontation / Finale". Media Monkey will fuck that up every time.

Also, to anybody who ever uploads CD information to any online dB, STOP PUTTING THE TRACK TITLES IN ALL CAPS.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 4:36 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

Application: iTunes
Settings: iTunes Plus

And this one I remember everyone telling me 'Why would you do that?' but I still do it and it's still my preferred way of organizing things. I create a play list for every CD I rip. Sometimes going by the album name isn't enough and it can throw everything out of whack when it alphabetizes. Yuck! It's also nice that when you create a playlist that you are then able to organize the music however you see fit. This is important because I've got many playlists that house soundtracks with re-organized tracks so I can listen to the whole score as close to C&C as possible. One important example was when the Star Trek 50th Anniversary soundtrack was released, I replaced the End Titles that came with the expanded TWOK with the one from this set. Now I can listen to all of James Horner's music without Nimoy throwing off the mood.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I’ve thought about just listening to the discs themselves, but then I always remind myself that I lose the ability to make custom playlists and of course I fear damaging a rare disc by accident.

There's no fun in having a rare disc if you're not going to play it. You might as well have downloaded the files and not have the disc at all.

And cuatom playlists ain't all that :-)


Exactly. This is why when I have an option to buy the CD quality download I do just that. And then the main reason I continue to buy CDs is that 1) no download option exists for those in CD quality 2) I want to support the label putting out the music. Both reasons happen to exist for anything released by Intrada, LLL, Kritzerland, etc. Otherwise I would have completely stopped buying CDs by now.

Also, holy crap that Fiio 5 markII is expensive. But it sounds like it might be the only option if I don't find a good replacement once my Zune dies.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

I’ve thought about just listening to the discs themselves, but then I always remind myself that I lose the ability to make custom playlists and of course I fear damaging a rare disc by accident.

There's no fun in having a rare disc if you're not going to play it. You might as well have downloaded the files and not have the disc at all.

And cuatom playlists ain't all that :-)


Exactly. This is why when I have an option to buy the CD quality download I do just that. And then the main reason I continue to buy CDs is that 1) no download option exists for those in CD quality 2) I want to support the label putting out the music. Both reasons happen to exist for anything released by Intrada, LLL, Kritzerland, etc. Otherwise I would have completely stopped buying CDs by now.

Also, holy crap that Fiio 5 markII is expensive. But it sounds like it might be the only option if I don't find a good replacement once my Zune dies.



I know- I found my Fiio 5 MkII for a super-low sale price.

I highly recommend the Fiio x1 mk1:
https://www.amazon.com/X1-Resolution-Lossless-Player-Silver/dp/B00NS3MRKC

128gb capacity, super clean sound, long-lasting battery charge.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 9:42 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

iTunes as a program used to be a 10 out of 10. Now it's a 5 out of 10 as far as user friendly. So yeah, it's gone to crap. But it's still the best program out there.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 10:09 PM   
 By:   jgraebner   (Member)

I use dBpowerAMP to rip all of my CDs to lossless FLAC files which I store on a Windows 10 based dedicated media computer that has a ton of hard disk space (the music collection currently is around 800GB). I've been using Tag&Rename for editing tags for a long time, but have recently started experimenting with MP3Tag, which has some powerful scripting features. T For redundancy, I backup the collection to a Network Attached Storage (NAS) device and I also keep copies on a 2TB portable hard drive that I can connect to my laptop for listening at work. I also use Crashplan to back the NAS up to the cloud.

On the media computer, I run a Sublogic server that lets me stream music from my Android phone via an app called dSub (which also works with Android Auto in my car) or cast to Chromecast audio devices connected to my AV Receiver or to Google Home devices that we have in several rooms in the house. I do also have a subscription to Google Play Music and upload my library there as well, mainly for convenience if I want to play something via voice on the Google Home. Google Play does downgrade the quality a bit compared to the lossless recordings, but I really can't tell the difference on those lower quality speakers. On my laptop (a Microsoft Surface Pro 4 running Windows 10), I mainly use the Windows 10 standard Groove Music player when listening via the hard drive, although I can also use the Sublogic web interface if I need to stream for some reason, such as if I'm traveling and don't bother to take the hard drive.

Finally, I use the excellent Music Collector software from Collectorz.com to catalog my entire collection. It's not cheap, but you get what you pay for in this case. I haven't found any other CD cataloging solution that comes close.

 
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