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 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 2:53 PM   
 By:   SoundScope   (Member)

SOUTH PACIFIC will be in theaters again in August for two days as part of TCM's classic movie thing for it's 60th Anniversary.

Wouldn't this be a great time for somebody to pull together an expanded soundtrack release?

The Sound of Music, Okalahoma, Carousel and The King and I all have one.

I know, I know: "This old harang again?" But really, South Pacific, above them all has some of the most gorgeous scoring that's ever been done. It's time.

(I won't be holding my breath though)

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   MikeyKW   (Member)

They haven't done TSOM properly, so I hon't have much hope we'll see South Pacific give this treatment. There is indeed alot of gorgeous underscore including the Entre Act, yet to see the light of day, along with a few reprises. The music track accompanying Joe Cable's visit to Liat is one of my favorite unreleased tracks.


SOUTH PACIFIC will be in theaters again in August for two days as part of TCM's classic movie thing for it's 60th Anniversary.

Wouldn't this be a great time for somebody to pull together an expanded soundtrack release?

The Sound of Music, Okalahoma, Carousel and The King and I all have one.

I know, I know: "This old harang again?" But really, South Pacific, above them all has some of the most gorgeous scoring that's ever been done. It's time.

(I won't be holding my breath though)

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   recordwrackedII   (Member)

They showed South Pacific at the Academy a few years ago. Mitzi Gaynor and John Kerr were guests. There was some tension when Kerr commented that the original reviews were not all that great.

IMHO the best thing about it are Alfred Newman and Ken Darby and the great 20th sound..... Darby's wordless female choral voices behind the solo almost make up for the lurid red/orange filters in the Bali Ha'i sequence. (Darby does a similar effect in the River of No Return score).

One of the weirdest "big" musicals of the era. Interesting to see on a big screen though.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Hey SoundScope always enjoy our musical discussions (on top of everything else). We've sliced & diced South Pacific many times over the years in multiple threads. The following is one of my faves:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?pageID=1&forumID=1&threadID=32552&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2018 - 6:06 AM   
 By:   SoundScope   (Member)

Hey SoundScope always enjoy our musical discussions (on top of everything else). We've sliced & diced South Pacific many times over the years in multiple threads. The following is one of my faves:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?pageID=1&forumID=1&threadID=32552&archive=0


Yes we have... and I looked up the thread again. I know its nostalgia and a kind of childish (I'm 63!) hope that this will happen, but damn it, this is one of my favorite films. Then too, I get so frickin' sick and tired of all the carping about these old things. It was of it's time, and it was a huge financial success, so shut the hell up. smile Like it or not.

I know I sound. . . bitter? Maybe. For me, one has to understand how and when I saw this film. It was 1964 and my mom was in hospital and not expected to live. Dad, for some reason, must have though I needed an escape (as I'm sure he did too) so he decided to take me to this new theatre that had just opened in Milwaukee. It was the Capitol Court Theatre, designed by Drew Eberson (the son of John Eberson the famous arch. of all those incredible atmospheric movie palaces). Any way the place was huge! It sat over 1000 and was all modern, red and gold and had a screen 70 feet wide. For some reason they had SOUTH PACIFIC. I had never heard sound like that, never seen a screen like that. It was, alas, a peak experience. Put it all together and that's why I love this movie so.

I'll be hosting a little party and show the blu-ray and will continue to hope for the soundtrack.

smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2018 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Party away! And btw I hit Soc Sec eligibility in a few months m'selfeek ANYWAY...loved the roadshow version. cool

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2018 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

Here's the Rialto gang during a screening of my 16mm scope print.



And here's one of my favorite parts of Alfred Newman's score:

http://www.chelsearialtostudios.com/liat.mp3

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2018 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

I take it this special two-day screening will not be of the roadshow version?

It’s so sad that later generations will never have the opportunity to see roadshow films the way they were originally meant to be seen, in a movie palace, on a giant screen, with stupendous sound!

Curiously, that era didn’t last as long as it seemed at the time. These movies were meant to be entertainment “events.” You were supposed to plan to see them, and could get tickets far in advance, similar to live theatre.

Ah, for the days of Overtures, Intermissions, Entr’actes, and Exit Music!

Not to mention souvenir programs. The one for SOUTH PACIFIC is hardbound. I still have it. (And you can get one, if you check out Movie Memorabilia on E-Bay.)

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2018 - 6:55 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

In the early nineties, I saw all of the South Pacific tracks at Chace Audio.
They are all marked prerecords.
But the underscore is also marked that.
Apparently it was played on the set to "inspire" the actors.
All of the dialogue for this film had to be dubbed in later. anyway.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2018 - 7:05 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)


Ah, for the days of Overtures, Intermissions, Entr’actes, and Exit Music!


TCM announced that THE TEN COMMANDMENTS will be featured during the upcoming TCM Film Festival in Hollywood. They usually present films in their original format so I imagine we'll get to see the roadshow version. The venue hasn't been announced yet, but I'm betting it will be shown at the TCL Chinese or the Egyptian.

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2018 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   SoundScope   (Member)

Party away! And btw I hit Soc Sec eligibility in a few months m'selfeek ANYWAY...loved the roadshow version. cool

It's only what, fifteen minutes? But I loved the extra stuff too. smile I miss the roadshows, to be sure! smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2018 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   SoundScope   (Member)

Here's the Rialto gang during a screening of my 16mm scope print.



And here's one of my favorite parts of Alfred Newman's score:

http://www.chelsearialtostudios.com/liat.mp3


Indded! This is what I love about this baord. The clip you supplied is ample example of why an expanded CD soundtrack should be done!

My other favorite section of scoring is that incredible crossing to the island with the throbbing, driving orchestra and chorus . . . incredible.

Thanks for this!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2018 - 6:08 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

http://www.chelsearialtostudios.com/liat.mp3

Oh Ray, Oh Ray, if you want to learn this yamming art...OOPS wrong intro...Oh Ray without clicking on the link I said I know my favorite cue and I betcha it's Ray's as well. So I clicked. Yep. And now for the rest of the night I can "see" Kerr drinking in the surroundings the whole way through and then the incredible pan upwards...Liat. Oh, my. What a vision. And the music, the music! I know (probably in the link Yours Truly supplied earlier) R. Pulliam and I went rhapsodic over all this. I lost a handful or more of DVDs in the maelstrom of moving last and this is one of them. All the same, thank you for "resurrecting" it.

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2018 - 5:38 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2018 - 6:29 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

Concerning the cue when John Kerr first goes to Bali Hai.
What you are hearing is the rewrite. the roadshow version had John Kerr (dubbed by Bill Lee0 and chorus singing a short reprise of Bali Hai.
the commentary track says this was never in the film.
At one time I had the cutting continuity for the roadshow version. It certainly was there.
This can be partially heard in a trailer that was only on a pressing of the doc - Rodgers and Hammerstein - the sound of movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2018 - 3:46 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

I, too, would love an expanded CD of this score or a Blu-ray with an isolated music track. There is a ton of great background scoring featuring one of the last instances of that great, inimitable "Newman at Fox" sound.

 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2018 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)


Any expanded release of this beautiful score is highly desirable.

“South Pacific” continues to be hugely popular, and is still the longest running movie in UK history.

It opened at The Dominion theatre, Tottenham Court Road,London on April 21st, 1958
and ran there, in its original Road Show presentation until September 30th, 1962.

That’s 4 years 5 months & 9 days.

A record that will probably never be broken.

(Later on, at the same theatre, “The Sound of Music” only made it to 3 years 3 months & 2 days.)








 
 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2018 - 6:41 AM   
 By:   mulan98   (Member)

Thank you so much Ray for the breathtakingly wonderful Liat musical cue.
It's continues to be so sad that there is no recording of the underscore.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2018 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   paulw   (Member)

Any expanded release of this beautiful score is highly desirable.

“South Pacific” continues to be hugely popular, and is still the longest running movie in UK history.

It opened at The Dominion theatre, Tottenham Court Road,London on April 21st, 1958
and ran there, in its original Road Show presentation until September 30th, 1962.

That’s 4 years 5 months & 9 days.

A record that will probably never be broken.

(Later on, at the same theatre, “The Sound of Music” only made it to 3 years 3 months & 2 days.)



I wonder how many sets of prints they went thru??

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2018 - 7:32 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

No one said there would be math.

1958-2018 is 60 years!

James

 
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