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 Posted:   Feb 24, 2018 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

... the Statue of Liberty and Chuck Heston? And Nova!

They were all there 50 years ago!

DAMN IT ALL TO HELL!!!

Sorry, my Chuck Heston speedo was being dry cleaned.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2018 - 1:09 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Hi Zoob!

AdamTheWoo breathlessly "tackled" this adventure as well. I love checking out the videos of old abandoned film locations.



 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2018 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Hi Anzaldiman,

Adam the Woo is great!

I was in L.A., Hollywood, Malibu this past week visiting old friends and roommates from my days of living in L.A. 1984 - 2003. My buddy Greg who went to USC and became a Feature Trailer film editor at Universal took me to see his old tramping grounds and I saw the 50th Anniversary PLANET OF THE APES Exhibit. Also visited the Malibu Statue of Liberty location, not far from where my buddy lives now. Great fun. I'll be posting more photos from USC of great stuff including the Spielberg and Lucas Buildings and the John Williams Scoring Stage! Stay tuned.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2018 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Great stuff from one of the events. I didn't shoot it, but it's great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_g3IpB_nIQ

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2018 - 3:04 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Thanks for posting that Zoob.

Always enjoy your posts. Always something unique.

Keep them coming!

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2018 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Cool pics and videos! Love location shooting and behind the scenes stuff. It surprises me how much remains the same and undeveloped.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2018 - 6:29 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Hi Zoob! I admire you, you get around!smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2018 - 6:32 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

That first pic is excellent!
smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2018 - 10:23 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Thanks guys!

It seems the original location rocks may have been manipulated via angles, matte additions, mountain rock reshaping and rocks being added and deleted and placed differently. Cool stuff though.

Thanks to my good buddy Antoine for this photo shop job putting the Zoob in the picture with the Statch. Check out Heston and Nova below this photo for those cinema tricks.

This guy shows what I'm talking about:

http://the-great-silence.blogspot.com/2012/10/on-earth-all-along_31.html

And the final scene in the movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDLS12_a-fk




 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2018 - 10:43 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

A great shot of my buddy Greg taking a photo of me sitting on the Planet of the Apes rocks, taken by my buddy Antoine! I'm confused too.



 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2018 - 4:22 AM   
 By:   Expat@22   (Member)

A great shot of my buddy Greg taking a photo of me sitting on the Planet of the Apes rocks, taken by my buddy Antoine! I'm confused too.



Absolutely terrific stuff! It is a pity that they didn't capitalise on keeping the Ape City complex as a tourist attraction, similar to what they did with Hobbiton in NZ. Still, I think the execs were very myopic in their outlook. IIRC, Debbie Reynolds pointed that out when she tried to save a lot of the Hollywood costumes and props. Was that not the case?

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2018 - 7:41 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)







I'm amazed those two boulder's just off into the ocean are pretty much in the same spot and same size. You would think after 50 years of ocean pounding they've been eroded or slightly moved in one direction or the other. Just goes to show you 50 years is nothing in evolutionary time. It does look like the shoreline has eroded and receded some though.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2018 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Cool pics and videos! Love location shooting and behind the scenes stuff. It surprises me how much remains the same and undeveloped.

Adam's video clearly shows that there's some sort of picnic area there now at that location which is interesting. Also interesting are those broken cement remnants of the ape city set that are still scattered around up in the hills after all these decades!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2018 - 9:25 PM   
 By:   chromaparadise   (Member)

Zooba, you were sooooooo close!

One of the most often misidentified locations used in the original Planet of the Apes, is the rocky promontory at the southern end of Zuma Beach. This is NOT the spot where the matte shot of the Statue of Liberty was done (though it is seen in the first shot of Escape/Apes). While it's true they built the giant scaffolding and put the 1/4 scale crown and torch tops of Lady Liberty and shot the down angles of Heston and Linda Harrison here, the location for the ground-level matte painting was around the corner in Pirates Cove (where the archaeological dig set was constructed). Here's a picture I took last summer of the matte painting site:




The rocks on the left side of the matte shot are painted (or a photo cut-out) to cover the bottom of the bamboo scaffolding that led to Cornelius' cave. Matte artist Emil Kosa, Jr took a bit out of the cliff to make the Statue of Liberty stand out. If you notice, the 3 rocks in the ocean are there, a fourth on the horizon-line on the right is painted in (along with the sky). Actually, I should have moved about 5-10 feet to the right and I would have been spot-on.

For everyone who's interested (shameless plug!): In mid-2018 I have a new book coming out titled: Location! Location! Location! which explores my life-long journey to find the exact filming locations for Planet of the Apes—including the major discovery that several key locations in Utah haven’t been touched by Man (or Ape) since May 1967! The reader will be treated to incredible discoveries, a wealth of photos and previously unknown research about the work filmmaker Franklin J. Schaffner did to find and exploit these locales. Location! Location! Location! will provide both clarity and humor to the history of the three-month shoot of Planet of the Apes.

Here's something I posted on the Simians & Serialism Facebook page last Summer. The Apes Scarecrow location that I visited 50 years to the day Schaffner, cast and crew were there!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2018 - 9:43 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Yes Chroma, I'm sure you are right.

We did go around the rock I'm kneeling at and did see the "Pirate's Cove" Section and thought the very same thing, that that section of similar yet different rocks was the actual spot. It' weird though, that in the movie, they show that Pirate Cove area where the caves are and where Zaius is tied up, but they make it seem that Heston and Nova travel a great distance from there to discover the Statue, which would actually be right to the right of the caves in reality and right there. I guess they had their choice to use either site, which both would have worked and could have both been manipulated matte wise for there liking.

Cool stuff all around. It was fun seeing it all in real life.

Thanks for your input!

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2018 - 10:03 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

You spoiled the ending!!!!!!
.Damn you. Damn you all to hell!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 26, 2018 - 1:34 AM   
 By:   chromaparadise   (Member)

Yes Chroma, I'm sure you are right.

We did go around the rock I'm kneeling at and did see the "Pirate's Cove" Section and thought the very same thing, that that section of similar yet different rocks was the actual spot. It' weird though, that in the movie, they show that Pirate Cove area where the caves are and where Zaius is tied up, but they make it seem that Heston and Nova travel a great distance from there to discover the Statue, which would actually be right to the right of the caves in reality and right there. I guess they had their choice to use either site, which both would have worked and could have both been manipulated matte wise for there liking.!


Franklin J. Schaffner (while being one of the most underrated directors in history!) was very clever how he shot the short journey Taylor and Nova make up the shoreline up to the ruins of Lady Liberty using such limited acreage. Some of it was shot in Pirates cove (cleverly framed), some of it is from the tower on Zuma Beach, but most of it was shot around the south/eastern point from Pirates Cove. Through the magic of film editing and much brilliant music from Jerry Goldsmith and—voila!

P.S. Zooba, I keep telling you much more Apes goodies are in the pages of Simians & Serialism (Sale priced now!) Ack! Shameless plug! Zooba...resistance is futile!! wink

 
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