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 Posted:   Mar 14, 2018 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

Wondering if anyone on the board can help me with a John Barry scoring (session recording) timeline, which I intend to use for part of a spring lecture presentation on the composer's 1960's/early 70's scores (London/ Majorca years). Though there's much good info about the Bond scores to be found in both the fine Barry biography by Leonard/Walker/Bramley and Jon Burlingame's informative book on Bond music, I haven't as yet been able to determine definitive dates for Barry's non-Bond projects after the scoring of From Russia with Love (scored either late August or September 1963) up to the May 1967 scoring of You Only Live Twice.

What I know: The Ipcress File scored around Mid February 1965, King Rat (Barry's first score recorded in the States), around mid April 1965. Barry scored Thunderball in October/November 1965 followed by The Chase and Born Free (the latter Barry worked on into January 1966). You Only Live Twice was scored early May 1967 (CTS), about five weeks before the film's premiere.

Conjectured (note: scoring, not film release, dates):

1963 (following scoring of FRWL): The Winston Affair (a.k.a, Man in the Middle), Zulu (November or December 1963?)

1964: A Jolly Bad Fellow (January 1964?), Seance On A Wet Afternoon (March 1964?), Goldfinger (late August 1964), Sophia Loren in Rome/Mister Moses (both recorded in Rome, September/mid-October 1964?), The Party's Over (November 1964?)

1965: The Knack (January 1965?), The Ipcress File (10-11 February, 1965, CTS), Four in the Morning (directly following Ipcress?), King Rat (April 1965, Hollywood - Columbia Pictures "Sunset" Studio), Passion Flower Hotel (stage musical), Thunderball (late October/November, 1965), The Chase (mid December 1965?), Born Free (commenced writing score late December, 1965).

1966: Born Free (rec. January or early February 1966), The Wrong Box (March or April 1966?), The Quiller Memorandum (September 1966), Dutchman

1967: You Only Live Twice (early May 1967, CTS), The Whisperers (just before/after YOLT?)

Was also interested in Midnight Cowboy, reading online that the film was shot from May to September 1968 but not released until late May 1969. Since Barry wore a couple of "musical hats" on the film (music supervisor/composer) I imagine he was engaged on the film earlier rather than later (guessing February 1969 for the actual original scoring).

Any help with the aforementioned would be much appreciated.

Cheers,
William

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2018 - 3:53 AM   
 By:   Nick Haysom   (Member)

You might want to post this query at the John Barry discussion group on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/JohnBarryAppreciationSociety/

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2018 - 9:57 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I'm curious where Sinful Davey fits in.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 3:59 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I read somewhere that The Whisperers was recorded September 1966. That may put Quiller back to October 1966. The film was released in November 1966.

Barry was on fire during this period. So many great scores over such a short timescale....

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 4:01 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

William: Is it OK if I copy your query over to the FB John Barry Appreciation group.......there are some experts over there?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 4:01 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I'm curious where Sinful Davey fits in.

Sinful Davey was 1968. Probably just before Boom and The Lion In Winter.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 4:27 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

William: Is it OK if I copy your query over to the FB John Barry Appreciation group.......there are some experts over there?

Absolutely, Peter. Thanks. Just bought The Whisperers/Equus CD from Kritzerland, which may include some info on the session.

Noticed on Volume 1 of "John Barry, The EMI Years" that there are two JB7 period compositions entitled "Bees Knees," a piece that Barry had said inspired his part of the James Bond Theme. Was track #12 titled wrong, as I'm guessing #19, the one with the dynamic timpani "breaks" is the one that inspired "Bond," or did Barry in fact write two "Bees Knees?"

BTW: Just located/purchased a March 1955 copy of Downbeat Magazine that includes the ad for Bill Russo's "Composition and Orchestration for the Jazz Orchestra" course, the one John Barry mentioned in nearly any interview that included his training in music. Was hoping that Russo's 1968 book of the same name might contain much of the same info, but from what I understand, it doesn't really (as he had changed his writing style/philosophy considerably after 1960). Looking to contact the manager of Russo's archives (in Chicago) to find a copy of the course, any correspondence with Barry while Barry was in the Army (assuming he would have gone by John B. Prendergast then).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 4:58 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

I read somewhere that The Whisperers was recorded September 1966. That may put Quiller back to October 1966. The film was released in November 1966.

Barry was on fire during this period. So many great scores over such a short timescale....


I had mentioned this before, albeit some years ago, that Barry's 1965 was similar to Horner's 1983, each composer working almost non-stop throughout the year. In Horner's case, he was wrapping work on Krull in January, returning to the States soon after to start work on the rescore of "Something Wicked," returning to the UK in August for "The Dresser" and Varese LSO recording of "Brainstorm" then back to the US for "Uncommon Valor" fitting in along the way "Brainstorm" (June MGM session), "Testament, "Between Friends" (HBO drama), "Gorky Park" (whew...what drive these guys had when they were late twenties/early thirties!)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 5:00 AM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

I believe Mr. Barry’s timeline was collecting some Oscars...Two.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 5:01 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

I believe Mr. Barry’s timeline was collecting some Oscars...Two.

Well, actually he wasn't there (in LA) in April 1967 to collect the two awards for "Born Free" as his wife at the time, Jane Birkin, was giving birth in London (the producer accepted the score award on his behalf, Don Black, his lyricist, for the song), his friend (and "Knack" star) Michael Crawford actually phoning him (from NY) with the news. At the time Barry would have also been working on "You Only Live Twice," which scored (at CTS) only a few weeks later. Don't know if Barry was on hand in 1969 to receive his Oscar for "The Lion in Winter" (he may have been preoccupied with "Midnight Cowboy" then), though surmise he was likely present for the Anthony Asquith award presentation as it was the first award given by BAFTA for music scoring.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 7:02 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Barry was not at Oscars for The Lion in Winter. All of his oscar wins are on youtube.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 5:51 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

The Party's Over was earlier. 1963. It's release was delayed because of problems with the UK censors.

 
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