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 Posted:   Mar 19, 2018 - 5:57 AM   
 By:   Tadlow   (Member)

http://www.tadlowmusic.com/2018/03/thriller-2-jerry-goldsmith/

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2018 - 6:04 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Ah! You totally coincided with the resurrection of my old thread!

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2018 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Very excited for this one!

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2018 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Awesome James! Love the videos, as always. Can't wait for this one; it's perfect timing as it's coming out just a month or two before we tackle Thriller on The Goldsmith Odyssey. With this kinda synergy, we've decided to base our first two episodes covering the series on the selections you and Leigh made for each of the two new Thriller recordings (and then do a third episode covering the remaining ones). That way for the first two, we can promote your two specific new recordings. smile

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2018 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   KRopa   (Member)

Meeee toooo... looking forward to the followup to the excellent vol. 1

But I forget how I got vol. 1... Will this new release be available from a US online retailer such as ScreenArchives, or is it best to order direct from Tadlow with overseas shipping?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2018 - 6:10 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Meeee toooo... looking forward to the followup to the excellent vol. 1

But I forget how I got vol. 1... Will this new release be available from a US online retailer such as ScreenArchives, or is it best to order direct from Tadlow with overseas shipping?


I don't know, KRopa. I imagine that SAE will stock it, as will other online soundtrack stores. But I'm out of touch because in order to make things simple I always order from my local soundtrack specialists here in Spain. As with all places outside the USA, for US-produced CDs they kind of include the shipping price by pushing up their retail price. It's the only way they can stay in business. Having said that, the Tadlows work out cheaper than most other labels.

Exchange rate is (of course) another factor to consider. You know all this already. Just out if curiosity, where do you live?

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2018 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   KRopa   (Member)

Thanks GW of Spain for the speculation. I'll wait 'til mid-April to see what turns up stateside.

I lived many years in Cedar Rapids, Iowa but now make my home in San Francisco. Out here for a tech conference in the early '90s, paid a visit to Intrada's HQ, which at the time had retail shelves like a record store. I could only see this through the glass, however, since sadly the office was closed that day. Last year made it to Oakland to pick up an order in person, but it's totally just a mail-order operation now. Otherwise locally, have been able to find some goodies at Amoeba Music, as well as a couple of still-existing used record stores in North Beach.

Have been a reader of this board for many years but haven't posted hardly at all...

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2018 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Thanks GW of Spain for the speculation. I'll wait 'til mid-April to see what turns up stateside.

I lived many years in Cedar Rapids, Iowa but now make my home in San Francisco. Out here for a tech conference in the early '90s, paid a visit to Intrada's HQ, which at the time had retail shelves like a record store. I could only see this through the glass, however, since sadly the office was closed that day. Last year made it to Oakland to pick up an order in person, but it's totally just a mail-order operation now. Otherwise locally, have been able to find some goodies at Amoeba Music, as well as a couple of still-existing used record stores in North Beach.

Have been a reader of this board for many years but haven't posted hardly at all...


Hi KRopa - You know, sometimes I have "senior moments" which when they hit me leave me a little perplexed, if not worried. I've just realised that my response to your question makes no sense. When I wrote that reply, I somehow had it in my head that Tadlow was based in the USA. I'm shaking my head right now - Siva Screen, James Fitzpatrick, recording in Prague, Nic Raine... and the USA? That's why I assumed you were not in the States, and why I didn't fully understand your request, and why my answer is senseless. Jeez. Somebody get me to the specialist quick.

Anyway, you've given me a good excuse to bring up an old story of mine. Nothing to do with Tadlow, but you mention Intrada. I spent about four months working and travelling the the States way back in the summer of 1986. When I was in San Francisco I made a point of calling in on Doug Fake in the old Vallejo Street shop. I was back-packing so I couldn't buy anything, but I remember that Doug was playing the then-recently re-recorded ISLANDS IN THE STREAM, just the first track over and over and telling me how wonderful it was. I asked him if he'd ever heard of Gil Mellé (I pronounced it "Mell"), and he said, "Oh Gil MellAY? Sure I have", in a friendly but somewhat diffident manner. And then, "Hey, don't you just love this new Jerry Goldsmith LP?", and he was back to ISLANDS IN THE STREAM.

P.S - I've just looked at the SAE page and they have THRILLER 2 up for pre-order at 19.99 dollars. So same price as most CDs twenty years ago. Just curious - is postage expensive within the USA itself?

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2018 - 9:38 PM   
 By:   KRopa   (Member)

Cool story about the Vallejo Street store!

& thanks for noticing that ScreenArchives has Thriller 2 now, I've pre-ordered.

Shipping anywhere within the USA is not so expensive. For a CD at this price it adds 20-25%, which is definitely more reasonable than overseas shipping. Mostly it's when I get a used European release from Discogs that I end up paying extra for shipping, like a couple of Piero Piccioni classics I ordered last year.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2018 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

Very excited for this one!

Yes. It looks super-cool by Tadlow, love the cover, Vol-1 was an excellent release this is the icing for me, thanks very much Tadlow, ordered.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2018 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

Sometimes you go through a lot of time-intensive work and end up pretty proud of your end result, only to see it somewhat negated by releases like this.

When the complete THRILLER 14-DVD set was released in 2010 by Image Entertainment, I was overjoyed when they included an Isolated Music & Effects track for Jerry Goldsmith and Morton Stevens. I had watched these episodes in the 1960s and ever since had been a Jerry Goldsmith devotee. I dutifully played each isolated score track live, transferring it to my hard drive in Sound Forge. Whenever I could microsecond-edit out thunderclaps, door-slams, floorboard-squeaks, heavy-footsteps, etc., during sustained notes (where they would not be noticed), I had eventually cobbled together a pretty listenable library of Jerry's 18 THRILLER scores.

Now, this next THRILLER CD release (ordered, of course) will pretty much finish negating about two-thirds of my happy hours editing the M&E tracks. I'm not complaining! Just mentioning it for y'all. Did anyone else do the same happy extraction?

And THANK YOU, Sir James.

Ron Burbella

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2018 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

...I dutifully played each isolated score track live, transferring it to my hard drive in Sound Forge. Whenever I could microsecond-edit out thunderclaps, door-slams, floorboard-squeaks, heavy-footsteps, etc., during sustained notes (where they would not be noticed), I had eventually cobbled together a pretty listenable library of Jerry's 18 THRILLER scores...Did anyone else do the same happy extraction?

Yup. I didn't micro-edit out sound effects, but I did cut the long spaces and normalize the volume. Same with the Twilight Zones Nightmare As A Child and The Four of Us Are Dying, which didn't fit on the 4CD set from '99. I'm good with the atmospherics which come with the archival sound. I also rarely enjoy re-recordings, and am less partial to sparser instrumentation.

So Tadlow's Thriller volume 1 pretty much left me stunned. It's just brilliant! All of the betters about it are genuine listening experience improvements, and not by a small amount either. I call it a very welcome negation of my many minutes of moil.

Still, with The Cheaters, Dark Legacy, What Beckoning Ghost, Guillotine and The Last of the Sommervilles, we've got 108 minutes of music left from our efforts!

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2018 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I've kept hearing that Goldsmith composed for 18 episodes of this series...so isn't there one unreleased one missing?

(Also, did he write seven original Twilight Zone scores, or eight?)

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2018 - 9:20 PM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

Okay, Yavar, you asked for it. I forget exactly which episode it was, but one episode in the second season was tracked with non-original Goldsmith library cues or with Goldsmith cues from previous Thriller episodes.

My edits run:

THRILLER EPISODES WITH JERRY GOLDSMITH SCORES

No. Episode Title..........................Broadcast Date.....Score Length
01. The Cheaters.............................12-27-60.............24:31
02. The Poisoner..............................01-10-61.............23:20
03. Hay-Fork and Bill-Hook...............02-07-61.............19:39
04. Well of Doom..............................02-28-61.............28:25
05. Late Date...................................04-04-61.............26:31
06. Yours Truly, Jack the Ripper........04-11-61..............22:55
07. Mr. George.................................05-09-61..............24:08
08. The Terror in Teakwood.............05-16-61..............25:12
09. Dark Legacy...............................05-30-61..............22:45
10. The Grim Reaper........................06-13-61..............21:20
11. What Beckoning Ghost..............09-18-61..............25:32
12. Guillotine...................................09-26-61..............19:33
13. The Weird Tailor........................10-16-61..............19:57
14. God Grante That She Lye Still....10-23-61..............23:17
15. Masquerade...............................10-30-61..............21:54
16. The Last of the Sommervilles.....11-06-61..............22:25
17. The Closed Cabinet....................11-27-61.............29:13
18. The Bride Who Died Twice..........03-19-62.............27:29

Ron Burbella

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2018 - 11:44 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

did he write seven original Twilight Zone scores, or eight?

Seven:

Back There
The Big Tall Wish
The Invaders
Dust
Nervous Man in a Four Dollar Room
Nightmare as a Child
The Four of Us Are Dying

I rewatched the whole series, front to back, several years ago, and I would have noticed if he'd done more than that. His stock "Jazz Theme"s were used in additional episodes, as well as music from the episodes above ("Back There" shows up a lot), so he may have more credits but these are the episodes for which he composed original music.

 
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