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 Posted:   Apr 8, 2018 - 7:26 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

...which year do you think it was? Cite the shows that you feel made it the best year!

 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2018 - 9:35 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

For stories and characterizations the 80's. (When US television grew up.)
Hills Street Blues and St. Elsewhere.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 3:07 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Best YEAR for TV? I wouldn't know. In terms of periods, however, I'd say we've been living in a golden age for television in the last couple of decades.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 4:07 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I couldn't give a year, but the last 10-15 years have been amazing, with shows like: Game Of Thrones, Westworld, Deadwood, Black Sails, American Horror Story, Dexter, Penny Dreadful, The Walking Dead, & a hell of lot more, all from America (& some good Scandi drama too). The home grown stuff in the UK is mostly dire. I suppose I should say the sixties, & I have a lot of favourite shows from then, but todays stuff knocks it out of the water.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 5:56 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

...which year do you think it was? Cite the shows that you feel made it the best year!

For me, it was 1964 (even though I was not yet born).

The first seasons of both The Outer Limits and Doctor Who were in progress when 1964 started.
The autumn of 1964 witnessed not only the 2nd seasons of both these series but also the 1st season of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.
Also, the hour-long segments of Danger Man commenced production during 1964 (though the episodes were not broadcast until 1965 in the U.S.).

These are 4 of my favorite TV shows ... all hovering around 1964.

 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 6:00 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Considering the strength of the early Walking Dead as well as the genre-busting Breaking Bad (plus I believe 30 Rock was around during the beginning of those shows) I think 2010 (thereabouts) would be a good entry.

But I'm mostly a 60s and 70s television person, especially the latter.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 6:45 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

A good advice in this case is trying to disassociate yourself from the television shows of your formative years. Obviously, we all have a strong connection to those. But they tend to be viewed through rosy-coloured, nostalgic glasses. If you take a step back and try to evalute the series from a more objective, adult viewpoint, you should find that they often aren't up to task.

I've done that to my own 'nostalgia' period, and found that there aren't really that many good quality TV shows from those years -- as viewed through my contemporary, non-nostalgic eyes. Some, of course, like TWIN PEAKS or THE SINGING DETECTIVE or early X-FILES etc., but I wouldn't put any of those Sky Channel or Super Channel kiddie shows very highly on the list, for example. Even as much as I love them for nostalgic reasons.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 3:37 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

A good advice in this case is trying to disassociate yourself from the television shows of your formative years. Obviously, we all have a strong connection to those. But they tend to be viewed through rosy-coloured, nostalgic glasses.

This is not in my experience, personally. When I was a teenager during the 1980s, none of the 'new' shows appealed to me much. What I loved (and still do), however, was/is watching 'old' TV programs being re-run on local/non-major networks.
Even with Doctor Who, I wouldn't see the more-recent serials until they were around 3 or 2 years old. For example, the local public broadcasting channel did not show the 1978/'79 "Key to Time" season until the autumn of 1981.

To this day, I'd sooner look at a 1955 episode of Sherlock Holmes being played on a 'retro' channel than watch a new segment of The Good Place.

Quality is subjective ... and varies with each person's expectations and aesthetics. I desire to see older programs because of how they were scripted, directed, photographed, scored, etc.
I don't expect High Definition visuals or production design - I love watching 5 or less performers in 1 or 2 sets shot in monochrome.
I don't expect stereo sound - I'm OK with mono. Most of the time I don't feel like watching rapid editing and very short scenes -
I prefer long takes and lengthy dialog (as well as silences).

I don't think this makes me 'nostalgic'. How can one be nostalgic towards that which was created before one was born?
My preferences are for the overall zeitgeists from those stylizations of the mid-20th century which became passé in subsequent decades but nonetheless very much alive in my waking psyche.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Nostalgia is related to the stuff you saw IN those formative years (late childhood-teenage-young adult), not that the film or tv series were necessarily OF that era. So your love of older shows in your formative years is no less rosy-coloured than those of us who connect to the contemporary shows.

I, too, saw several older things when I was a kid (like the old Johnny Weissmüller Tarzan movies) -- and I'm nostalgically tied to them -- but I don't consider most of them particularly good movies with today's eyes.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 4:15 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Nostalgia is related to the stuff you saw IN those formative years (late childhood-teenage-young adult), not that the film or tv series were necessarily OF that era. So your love of older shows in your formative years is no less rosy-coloured than those of us who connect to the contemporary shows.


True that it may not be any less rose-colored, but this does not mean that we love everything that we had watched when we were young. Conversely, one can be just as fond for something one first saw as an adult.
For example, I never saw Repulsion until sometime during 1998 when this film was issued onto VHS tape. I was already past age 30 when I saw this and Repulsion resides in my Top 10 favorite films list.
Another example: A&E here in the U.S. did not start to release Danger Man episodes on home video until late in 2001. It wasn't until 2003 (after I had seen all these DVD volumes) that I decided that Danger Man was one of my favorite 5 TV series (and I was age 36 at this junction).
So I'm not truly nostalgic for Danger Man since I never saw any of its episodes during my adolescence. This is simply a case of me lovin' a black & white production from the mid-1960s regardless of whatever my age was when I encountered it.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

True that it may not be any less rose-colored, but this does not mean that we love everything that we had watched when we were young.

Of course not. Plenty of things I disliked then too. Or things I liked then, and still think are good (like the aforementioned TWIN PEAKS, X-FILES etc.).

I just think that -- in assessing something like 'the best year for TV' (to the extent such a thing is possible, and TV being such a tremendous, influential force in our formative years) -- one would be wise not to let oneself succumb to the power of nostalgia, something that is all-too-prevalent in these forums. Most members here seem to live in the past.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 5:35 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Most members here seem to live in the past.

While others dangerously approaching middle age awkwardly attempt hipness by clutching at fleeting contemporary pop culture straws.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 6:03 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

While others dangerously approaching middle age awkwardly attempt hipness by clutching at fleeting contemporary pop culture straws.

I don't recognize myself in that description, but it could be true for some, I suppose.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 6:27 AM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

From a Desilu perspective, 1967 is the best year.

Both Star Trek and Mission: Impossible were in progress and Mannix started its first season.
The Invaders was also in progress but that was a QM production.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 6:41 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

While others dangerously approaching middle age awkwardly attempt hipness by clutching at fleeting contemporary pop culture straws.

I don't recognize myself in that description, but it could be true for some, I suppose.


There was no specific FSMer in mind. I was just throwing it out there.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Not sure to pinpoint any year, but on the whole, whatever the year was, it must have been within the last ten years or so. Never before have there been so many good TV shows at once. Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, House of Cards, Game of Thrones, Homeland, Fargo, Big Bang Theory, Westword, Hannibal, Sneaky Pete, Black Mirror, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera...

TV has grown up this past decade or so. I am not saying I watch all the above shows or even personally like them (I don't have the time for all the stuff on TV), but these are generally very well received shows in their genre and just the tip of the iceberg. Should be something there for everyone.

If I had to live on a desert island with only a bunch of TV shows that are in their first run the given year of my choice, I'm sure I'd pick a year within the past ten years.

We are currently living in the golden age of TV shows.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Best YEAR for TV? I wouldn't know. In terms of periods, however, I'd say we've been living in a golden age for television in the last couple of decades.

I absolutely agree... just saw that you said that too. :-)

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)

I don't really think you can pick one year, but if I were to take a stab at it, I would say 1960, or thereabouts. We had Gunsmoke, Have Gun Will Travel, The Westerner, The Twilight Zone and Route 66.

Just a few years later, we had It's Man's World and Slattery's People.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 10:17 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

While others dangerously approaching middle age awkwardly attempt hipness by clutching at fleeting contemporary pop culture straws.

I don't recognize myself in that description, but it could be true for some, I suppose.


There was no specific FSMer in mind. I was just throwing it out there.


Nah, Thor to a T.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)

You started this thread, Jim. What do you think was the best year?

 
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